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Old 04-23-2012, 10:32 AM
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U.S. Vintage Trans Am - breath new life in on-road racing

Are you looking for a way to get on-road racing back to life at your local race venue? You should try starting up a Vintage Trans Am race class.

The first thing that anybody should know about U.S. Vintage Trans Am is where to find the rules.
Click here to see the official U.S. VTA Rules web page. It should look similar to what you see below.
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NEW RULES EFFECTIVE SEPTEMBER 28, 2011.
Rules updated 4.4.2012. All rules subject to change and expansion should need arise.

It is highly suggested that all indoor carpet tracks use these rules exactly as they are written with no deviations. Please try to keep it consistent and fair for everyone who may attend your track from around the country.

Trans Am Class Rules and Specifications
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Body Specifications:
Late '60s to early '70s American pony car Vintage Trans-Am bodies only.
Note: Any 2-seat sports car (like the '67 Corvette Stingray) or any non-American built car (like the DeTomaso Pantera) does not fall under the American pony car category.

Bolink part numbers:
BL2262 '68 Chevrolet Camaro
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2262

BL2263 '65 Ford Mustang
Also known as RJ Speed Part # BOL2263

HPI part numbers:
17510 - 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda
7494 - 1968 Chevrolet Camaro
17531 - 1969 CHEVROLET CAMARO Z28
17546 - 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 (scale wing ok)*
105106 - 1970 DODGE CHALLENGER BODY
*Note* For the (3) HPI Mustangs which are not provided with a spoiler: (i.e. 17508, 17519 and 104926)
A lexan spoiler of 16mm total height from trunk deck, and overall chord of 20mm is allowable. All other bodies must use the spoiler included with that specific body set. Built in spoilers may not be enhanced.
* 17508 - 1965 Ford Shelby GT-350
* 17519 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT
* 104926 - 1966 FORD MUSTANG GT COUPE BODY

Parma part numbers:
10143 - 1969 Z28 Camaro
10141 - 1970 Boss Mustang
10113 - 1970 'Cuda

Pegasus Hobbies part numbers:
PGH4001 - 1970 Camaro SS
PGH4002 - 1970 'Cuda
PGH4003 - 1970 Mustang

Protoform part numbers:
#1526 - J71

McAllister Racing part numbers:
#286- 1969 Mustang body

Wings or Spoilers: Body provided deck lid spoilers allowed (not wings). No additional skirts or raised/extended wings or air control surfaces allowed. Body must be trimmed at body trim lines. Full rear bumper required. It is highly preferred that bodies are detailed in race type livery in period-correct paint schemes. Fluorescent colors, wild graphics, chromes and non-period correct paint schemes are frowned upon. All cars must have a number on the hood, both doors and trunk lid. Wheel covers of any type are NOT allowed.

Driver Figures: All cars must include a driver figure consisting of at least a head and shoulders. Here are some examples of driver figure part numbers (ANY suitable 1/10 driver figure is legal - these are readily available examples)

HPI
#104815 INNER BODY SET FOR DT-1 TRUCK BODY

Associated
6180 Driver, unpainted, 1:10

McAllister
#423 Stock Interior and Driver
#419 SPRINT CAR DRIVER

Tire & Wheel Specifications:
The only tires allowed are HPI tire part #4793 "front" and #4797 "rear", using stock tire inserts provided with tire and any HPI Vintage wheels designed to fit these tires. All other tires and/or part numbers are illegal. Wheels and tires designated as "front" must be used as front tires/wheels, "rear" wheels/tires must used as rears. Five or Eight spoke wheels available in various colors. 0mm offset front wheels and 6mm offset rear wheels are intended for 26mm width fronts and 31mm width rear tires. 8-spoke Vintage wheels from #3805 through #3814, 5-spoke Vintage wheels from #3815 through #3822 and Vintage stock car wheels from #3854 through #3860, Vintage Wheel CC Type #33472 and #33473, Vintage Wheel DTP Type #33474 and #33475 are all legal wheels.

Grinding of tire tread is NOT permitted. Sanding of mold seam to remove seam is allowed. HPI Vintage Slicks and HPI Vintage Performance Tires are not allowed. Tire traction compounds are at the discretion of the track. No other altering, changing or softening of the tire is allowed. No "double stuffing" of foam inserts allowed—only single stock vintage tire inserts are allowed.

Chassis Specification:
Four Wheel Drive touring car chassis only. Any era or brand 4wd chassis is allowed.

Gear Ratios: Note: There is no gear ratio limitation in VTA. If you need a recommendation, a 4.0 FDR is a good place to start. An Excel spreadsheet gear ratio and final drive ratio calculator for most touring car chassis is available here.

Motor Specifications:
Only two types of 25.5 brushless motors (powered by 2-cell LiPo battery) are allowed: Novak SS25.5 Pro brushless motor (pn:3425V) or Ballistic 25.5 (pn:3625V- stator only pn:S6625) ONLY combined with any hard-cased 2C 7.4v LiPo pack up to and including 5000 mAh capacity. Novak motors are the ONLY motor allowed at this time. All house track rules regarding LiPo usage apply. Only physical motor timing advance is allowed, however Ballistic motors must not be advanced beyond the last line of the timing range sticker. 12.3 mm rotor diameter only (no "tuning" rotors are allowed, only stock Novak rotors allowed). Using ceramic bearings in the motor makes you a dork. No modifications or optional parts allowed on motor can, endbell, stator, or rotor. No cooling holes or other changes allowed to motor.

Approved ESCs:
NOVAK-
Club Brushless ESC (#1852)
EDGE 2S Brushless ESC (#1850, 1851)
Mongoose Micro Brushless/Brush ESC (#1718)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive (#1749)
GTB 2 Racing w/X-Drive- Low Profile (#1748)
GTB 2 Sportsman Racing Brushless ESC (#1708, 1709)
GTB series part numbers: 1710, 1711
Havoc series part numbers: 1732, 1733, 1735
Slyder part number: 1712
XBR (DISCONTINUED) part number:1720

LRP
A.i. Brushless Reverse part numbers: LRP80100, LRP80150

SPEED PASSION
Cirtix Stock Club Race ESC part number: 12280
Reventon Stock Club Race part number: SP000048

Battery Specifications:
Battery must be a 2-cell (7.4V) LiPo hard cased, 5000 mAh limit.

Ride Height Specification:
Minimum ride height is 5mm.

Weight Specification:
Minimum 1550g in race-ready trim.

Race Specification:
- 5 minute qualifiers.
- 8 minute mains.
- Absolutely NO IFMAR-type starts. All heats and mains should be straight-up starts, with random sorts for each heat. Non random sorts should shuffle starting order for each heat.

Optional Main Variations:
- 12-20 car A-mains, depending on car counts.
- Invert qualifying order based on random hat pull (top 6-10 cars).
- "LeMans" type starts where all cars are lined up on an angle to the racing line in order.
- Run track in reverse rotation for mains.
- Rolling starts.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: If it's not in the rules, and does not encompass the spirit of slower, controlled racing with realistic looking cars, consider it illegal. This is called the "Spirit of VTA" Rule. The class is based on slower, equal playing field competition with less traction, minimal aerodynamic aids and mostly older carpet racing technology. The final objective is close, fair, wheel-to-wheel racing for all. All decisions of the race promoter or track owner are final.

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Old 04-28-2012, 09:21 PM
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Is anybody already racing VTA at your home town?
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Just so you don't think the thread isn't getting seen...

Our area has actively tried to kill on-road racing for the last 3-5 years it seems like. Dirt oval was put in over the top of our indoor carpet track... and now the dirt oval track is falling apart because everyone realized it was lame to run nitro late models indoors with no ventilation and the electric guys tend to just run normal offroad. The next closest track (2-3 hours) has a carpet track but only races on Tuesdays (or something) because they run pan car oval on Saturday nights.

If there was a venue, this would be what I'd try first. I love the idea of keeping the horsepower low. Stock classes have always been fun. Low Horsepower stock class sounds really cool.

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Old 04-30-2012, 03:41 PM
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Just so you don't think the thread isn't getting seen...

Our area has actively tried to kill on-road racing for the last 3-5 years it seems like. Dirt oval was put in over the top of our indoor carpet track... and now the dirt oval track is falling apart because everyone realized it was lame to run nitro late models indoors with no ventilation and the electric guys tend to just run normal offroad. The next closest track (2-3 hours) has a carpet track but only races on Tuesdays (or something) because they run pan car oval on Saturday nights.

If there was a venue, this would be what I'd try first. I love the idea of keeping the horsepower low. Stock classes have always been fun. Low Horsepower stock class sounds really cool.

-Eric
I know what you mean, I'm in the same boat, as my local track's owner decided that a couple of short course guys' opinion mattered more than everyone else's, so he took the only carpet track left in my state(& only remaining onroad track for that matter) & brought in dirt to make it an offroad track(even though he already had an indoor dirt oval that could've EASILY been made into a dual purpose track & kept everyone happy), so now if I want to do ANY onroad racing I have to go out of state to do it(which incidentally, is at the same track that wwddww34 calls home, Mike's Hobby Shop in the DFW area). And if I could afford to go there every weekend, I'd do it in a heartbeat(& I do still go when I can, did the ROAR Carpet Nats there & I'm hoping I can still make it here & there)....
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There's a VTA class at my local track. And it's the most popular class, only one with enough participants to run a C main. Although my track runs 17.5 on 1s lipo. Great way to get into racing.
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We run VTA here at Brownies in Staten Island NY.
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Watch the VTA A-Main Video
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These 3 guys took home the honors from that race. Notice that 1st and 2nd place are father and son.


Randy's yellow/black/blue '68 Camaro with #93 on the doors took 1st place.

Joey's gold/black '65 Shelby GT350 Mustang with #47 on the doors took 2nd place.

David's blue/white/red '71 AMC Javelin with #6 on the doors took 3rd place.
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This series looks like an insane amount of fun to race in... The lack of horsepower really makes you find the good line and carry momentum. Just like road racing a Miata.. LOL

Great video!

-Eric
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This photo won "best action pic" of the series...
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USVTA racing is just about to start here in the Huntsville area, and I'm really excited about it! I just test ran my new TC4 today for the first time and all went well overall.

As a new forum member, I'm still trying to find my way around, so if I may ask a quick question... what part of the forum should I look in for suggestions on gearing for my car?

Thanks!!!
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Hey bronicabill, your best resource for any information regarding VTA is going to be this web site: http://www.rctech.net/forum/electric...rt-2-a-98.html

There you will find dozens of VTA enthusiasts with lots of experience setting up all kinds of VTA cars.
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The latest issue of RC Driver magazine (Oct 2012) features an article on Vintage Trans Am! Here it is!
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If you want to get a feel for VTA racing, then watch this video...

It was filmed from inside my VTA car during an actual race.
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So who is going to the 2012 U.S.VTA+ Southern Nationals in Music City (aka. Nashville, TN), USA?
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Another big event is coming up on the week of January 29 thru Feb. 3. It's the 2013 Snowbird Nationals in Orlando, Florida.

Last year there were 14 entries in VTA ...
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THE USVTA RACING CLASS
The U.S. Vintage Trans-Am (aka. VTA) R/C class is growing in popularity at on-road race clubs all across the USA. Vintage Trans-Am racing encompasses the spirit of slower, controlled racing with realistic looking cars from the U.S. Trans-Am Series between 1966 and 1972.
Five R/C car body manufacturers currently make 18 different bodies for prospective VTA hobbyists to choose from.
There are 8 Ford Mustang bodies:
1. HPI #17508 - 1965 Ford Shelby GT-350
2. HPI #17519 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT
3. HPI #17546 - 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302
4. HPI #104926 - 1966 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
5. McAllister #286 - 1969 Mustang VTA
6. Parma #10141 – 1970 Boss Mustang
7. Pegasus Hobbies #4003 - 1970 “Mach Racer” Mustang
8. Bolink (RJ Speed) #BOL2263 - 1965 Ford Mustang
There are 5 Chevrolet Camaro bodies:
1. HPI #7494 - 1968 Chevrolet Camaro
2. HPI #17531 - 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
3. Parma #10143 - 1969 Z28 Camaro
4. Pegasus Hobbies #4001 - 1970 Camaro SS
5. Bolink (RJ Speed) BOL2262 - 1968 Chevy Camaro
There are 3 Plymouth ‘Cuda bodies:
1. HPI #17510 - 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda
2. Parma #10113 - 1970 Hemi 'Cuda
3. Pegasus Hobbies #4002 - 1970 “Big Fish” 'Cuda
… and there is a Dodge Challenger body and an AMC Javelin body:
1. HPI #105106 - 1970 Dodge Challenger
2. Protoform #1526 - J71 AMC Javelin
What is missing from this list is my favorite U.S. Trans-Am Racecar of all time … The 1970 Pontiac Firebird. HPI Racing came very close to releasing one in February 2012, however they decided to make the 1978 model Pontiac Firebird instead of a U.S. Trans-Am era Firebird like the one pictured here.
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If you want to get a feel for VTA racing, then watch this video...
http://youtu.be/aBaE1_4LIvU

It was filmed from inside my VTA car during an actual race.
nice video.
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