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Old 10-21-2002, 11:41 AM
texasbikers texasbikers is offline
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she pushes

Did some racing this weekend and the major problem I have is the truck pushing in the turns.
I have an rc10gt factory team
Front end: 30wt oil, blue springs, edge tires (even tried the losi tires which are 1\2 edge and 1\2 small square knobbies) 2-3 negative camber, 1-2 degrees toe out, 1/2 oz of lead on the front end.

Rear, green springs, 40wt oil, -3 toe (factory arms)

She just won't turn, it pushes real bad in the turns. Any ideas on improving this?

Thanks Patrick
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Old 10-21-2002, 11:55 AM
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Texas, the edge tires should give you all you need for traction, and your setup doesn't sound too far off. Let me ask you: what kind of steering setup and servo do you have?

I've been racing 10T's for over 10 yrs. or so and have recently gotten into the GT's. outside of being heavier, there are many issues that are the same.

The pressure on those front wheels is a lot more than you think, especially when hitting a large turn at high speeds. One of the first things that was pointed out to me by a track owner was that he watched my 10T go into a turn and could visibly see the tires straightening back out. This meant that a) my servo was too weak or b) my servo saver was giving up some steering.

Bottom line, I put a Futaba S9404 (number might not be right!) servo up front, 111 oz/in torque and .11 sec speed, all metal gears and BB's. I tightened down the servo saver and the problem went away, I actually began getting oversteer and had to dial a little out with the D/R on the TX.

The same would be true if you're using the MIP maintenance-free steering with one of those servo savers that go on the servo; you never know WHEN those are giving up steering. I always rip them out and put the stock ones back in, the stock steering is smooth enough.

The only other thing: do you have holes drilled on the inside of your rims? Squeeze your tires. If they feel like they have air in them, drill a 1/16" hole on the inside of your rim so the tires are soft and squishy. You should hear the air whoosh out when you squeeze them.

Make sure your wheels are holding position before you worry about your setup!
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Old 10-21-2002, 11:58 AM
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P.S. I just set up my GT with the EXACT same oil and springs up front as you have (30/blue) because I was nosing in on our jumps. I was wondering why you elected to use toe-out? Stock setting is 0º, although I generally go 1/2 - 1º toed-in, for Irish luck.
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Old 10-21-2002, 12:20 PM
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few more details

ugggh, I ran the 1\2 edge and 1\2 small square knobby tires that Losi makes yesterday in the main. I know I don't have a hole drilled in the rim so the air can escape! MY BAD

I do use the stering setup from the factory, it's tight with no slop, I can see the tires are turned in the turns. I have a new servo, 96oz and .11 sec BB with metal gear. I don't recall the exact model number but it's very strong and fast.

I bet it's mostly the rims not having the hole in them. I'll be drilling tonight.

I think I will go closer back to zero degrees toe and see how that helps too.

Thanks guys!
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Old 10-21-2002, 05:24 PM
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HMMMM, your servo saver may be loose a little, the no holes is part of the problem as well. The toe out is what I have always done though and I don't have a problem with push. Were you on a slick track? I have seen a few guys lately starting to run Fuzzie T's in the front to stop push on a slick track. Good luck man.
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Old 10-21-2002, 10:42 PM
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Re: few more details

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I do use the stering setup from the factory, it's tight with no slop, I can see the tires are turned in the turns. I have a new servo, 96oz and .11 sec BB with metal gear.
Well that takes care of THAT one . . . I donno the reason I like the GT/10T is because it's so agressive in turns, not sure what to say here . . .
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