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thunderbt3 · #**2426** 12-09-2003, 03:55 AM

hey rookie, do u have any m18's left and if so, how much are you selling them for?

by the way, whats an sw12? i saw it in a earlier post

Walt · #**2427** 12-09-2003, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by pev942
track opens at 6 racing starts at 7 it is by farthe cheapest way to race and hone you skills before you go out spend lots of money

And those micros may be small, but they are a challenge to drive (because they are so fast considering the size track they are on). If you can drive a micro well, I'd say you are more than ready to try other forms of RC racing. I think you'll like it.

Walt · #**2428** 12-09-2003, 07:54 AM

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Originally posted by AKA_GEN_VOODOO
ok i call bullsh!@t your lap times all were in the 11 sec range you only had three laps in the 12 sec range the whole race and they were low 12 sec laps and when i beat you by 7 sec you said it was only 7 seconds i belive i was 3 seconds behind you sunday so if 7 seconds is a BIG lead than than 3 seconds must be huge also i was only busting tonys itsy bitsy tiny little balls he calms me down and im saying this under protest so back to the main topic you are right about one thing you are way off

as allways love frank

I didn't pull over and stop, I just backed off a bit. I was letting off a little earlier at the end of the straight and taking the infield at less than full throttle... I slowed down to a pace where I was 100% confident that I would not crash, which is just a little slower than 'full out'. If I would have seen your car out of the corner of my eye, I would have stepped it up a bit, but don't get me wrong, it's not like I had a lot left. I was looking for your car (which is tough, with you changing bodies all the time), but never saw it.

When I said before that you 'only' beat me by 7 seconds, I was comparing that to earlier in the day when I was a lap or more behind half way through the race and you could pass me like I was standing still. You still had a HUGE lead, but I had figured something out on my car in the main and made up a lot of the gap, but I've said over and over, I had NOTHING for you that day, period. My only chance was for you to crash, and you didn't. The rest of the weeks out there besides that one, I could run with you, and I hope to keep it that way.

But one thing you will NEVER see from me, is me stuffing myself into a wall or a lapped car when I'm in the lead and not being pressured from behind... that's just part of my driving style. Call bull all you want, but that's just the way I drive... I'm conservative when I can be... in fact, I'm tempted at AJ's to sit out one or more of the qualifiers since they are meaningless anyways. That's why I think we should go to race rounds instead of qualifying and mains.

And if going up to 8 minute races would get more 'good' drivers, I'm all for that, but I think they also want to run modified motors, and I'm not sure that I want to step up to motors that cost more than twice as much.

T-Racer · #**2429** 12-09-2003, 09:41 AM

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Tinley micro racing starts at 7:00pm but i am there at 5:00 pm seting up the track. most of the guys start showing up after then for practice

T-racer

Rookie Solara · #**2430** 12-09-2003, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by thunderbt3
hey rookie, do u have any m18's left and if so, how much are you selling them for?

by the way, whats an sw12? i saw it in a earlier post

Yes, I have M18...contact me via email please.

And SW12 is actually SB12 it is Trinity SwtichBlade 12 that Frank/Warpainter and myself are running....of course, same car different result cause I am not as good driver as they are.

Contact me via email please, I rather do my business that way....

rookiesolara@hotmail.com

Walt · #**2431** 12-09-2003, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
Yes, I have M18...contact me via email please.

And SW12 is actually SB12 it is Trinity SwtichBlade 12 that Frank/Warpainter and myself are running....of course, same car different result cause I am not as good driver as they are.

Contact me via email please, I rather do my business that way....

rookiesolara@hotmail.com

Warpainter moved on to the newest Trinity car, the Reflex 12, but he used to run the SB12, and still is the guy to talk to about set up for that car.

xsrwx · #**2432** 12-09-2003, 05:07 PM

Ok, I must admit being new to this can get confusing. What size (i.e. 1/12 or 1/18) cars are being raced at these two tracks. This is probably a silly question because you can race either if you just show up but what is the more popular size...

Thanks

Rookie Solara · #**2433** 12-09-2003, 05:23 PM

AJ only race 1/12th and 1/10th touring car (electric) for now...I don't think they race micro, then on MAY, they will do nitro touring, elect touring race....

Tinley Park race 1/18th Micro only in off-season (Wednesday night), on MAY, nitro touring, elect touring and oversize (1/8 and 1/10 235mm super size) Nitro Outdoor.

HTOP race 1/18th Micro only in off-season (Thursday night), on MAY, nitro touring, elect touring and oversize (1/8 and 1/10 235mm super size) Nitro Outdoor.

So...you need to head to hobby store and get your a 1/12th Trinity Reflex or 12L3, then a NTC3 or 710, then a Xray T1R EVO2 or TC3, then a Xray M18 or HPi Micro, then Serpent 1/8th 950R or 835 or HPi SNRS4.........

Then a 3PK radio with 8 receivers.......

Last....find a second job or 3rd job and you don't want a GF or WIFE for now....

thunderbt3 · #**2434** 12-10-2003, 03:33 AM

wow guys, i was looking up htop and the tp track and im interested, i chatted with rookie yesterday and it seems like theres so many tracks, the tp track looks very wide compared to what i usually race at ht st charles. what other tracks do u guys race nitro at during the summer or do u guys usually race at op and tp? how long does racing usually last till? at htsc, races start at noon and dont usually end till around 4 or 5. Im pretty much a rookie, i can say i can drive cleaner than tc drivers at st charles. i led most of the heats i ran on the only day i raced at htsc in a car thats never touched the track before. then the other guys started to wipe me out. is there a class for newbies or something like that? i saw a couple ntc3 rtr's in the pics and thats what i have.

Walt · #**2435** 12-10-2003, 09:00 AM

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Originally posted by thunderbt3
wow guys, i was looking up htop and the tp track and im interested, i chatted with rookie yesterday and it seems like theres so many tracks, the tp track looks very wide compared to what i usually race at ht st charles. what other tracks do u guys race nitro at during the summer or do u guys usually race at op and tp? how long does racing usually last till? at htsc, races start at noon and dont usually end till around 4 or 5. Im pretty much a rookie, i can say i can drive cleaner than tc drivers at st charles. i led most of the heats i ran on the only day i raced at htsc in a car thats never touched the track before. then the other guys started to wipe me out. is there a class for newbies or something like that? i saw a couple ntc3 rtr's in the pics and thats what i have.

I run the summer outdoor onroad racing at Tinley (Chicagoland R/C Raceway, www.chicagolandrc.com ), so I can comment about our track.

First of all, we've gotten a few racers at our track that used to run at HT in St. Charles, and all have said pretty much the same thing: in St. Charles, it's a bunch of kids playing with toys, and at our track it's serious, controlled, racing. We set up a large track with boards that the cars can't go under or through. We have a driver's stand that will hold 10 people. We have the latest AMBrc scoring system. We have a schedule that we stick to. And, importantly, we have frequency control. The biggest complaint I heard from people racing in St. Charles is the lack of frequency control. We are very strict about frequency control and harsh on people who turn on a radio when they don't have permission to do so... this is important if you don't want your car destroyed.

We start racing at 11am in the summer (track opens for practice around 9am) and are usually done around 4pm or so, but it depends on the turnout.. it can go later if we have a lot of guys, but we'll make sure that it never goes much later, even if that means running 2 qualifiers and the main instead of the normal 3 quals and the main, but then we'd let people who can stick around run an extra race or something. Also, we run double 5-minute A-mains for the electric guys, a single 10 minute main for the 'B' and lower nitro mains, and a single 15 minute A-main for nitro touring (or any nitro class that has more than one heat), so you get a lot of racing for your time at the track.

We don't have a 'newbie' class per se, but we do get a really good turn out for nitro touring cars (often about 30 guys), so we have enough people to separate out the old timers from the new guys. Our 'C' or 'D' main will have beginners in it, so you won't feel out of place, and if you can win our A-main you're pretty darn good.

Now then, if you want to race during the winter around here, it's pretty much electric unless you are willing to choke on the nitro fumes at Leisure Hours and run indoor off road.

So, short of the indoor off road track, you pretty much just need to decide if you want to race during the week or on the weekend. If you want to race during the week, get yourself a micro car (HPI Micro RS4 or M18) and you can run in Tinley on Wednesdays or HTOP on Thursdays (or both). I'm biased towards Tinley of course, but I'm sure HTOP puts on a good show too. Neither of these tracks is large enough to accommodate anything larger than a micro car.

If you want to run on the weekends, then you need to get a bigger car, either 1/12th scale pan car or 1/10th scale touring car, and you can race at AJ's in DeKalb, or RSJ in Libertyville.. both are good tracks. I run at AJ's where it is a little bigger and a couple of my friends race there. Plus, I prefer 1/12th scale, and I like the 1/12th scale guys at AJ's. You 'could' run a micro at AJ's or RSJ, but only if you got at least 2 other guys who wanted to do it also (3 cars of one kind to form a class is usually the rule), but as Frank put it after trying his Micro at AJ's: "it's like watching paint dry". The cars are just too small and too slow for a track that size, even though they are almost too big and WICKED fast on a track the size of the Tinley or HTOP micro tracks.

About the only car you could race year round would be an electric touring car, but honestly, it makes a lot more sense to me to run the more popular nitro touring car during the summer, and then switch to electric for the winter, and that electric car might as well be a 1/12th pan car, as they are much less expensive to purchase and maintain and are just as fast.

Let me know if this helps or if I have just confused you further.

wrxdan · #**2436** 12-10-2003, 10:20 AM

I wish HT St. charles ran better races. I live less then 10 minutes from that place. I raced there a few times. It was mostly monster trucks. TC turn out was low, which was good because the track is soo small. You guys think HTOP is small, HTSC is about half the size of HTOP.

I think I heard HTSC races in the front parking lot now? So maybe it's better??

I think that is the only track were some kid ran down my NTC3 with his TMAXX and crushed me on purpose. It's a long story.

HTSC is a fun place, but not a place to race. It's more bashing than anything. Maybe this will change for next year?

Hanibel · #**2437** 12-10-2003, 10:48 AM

When it comes to choosing electric vs. nitro there are many factors. If you want to talk about summer vs. winter and cost then here is a point.

Nitro and electric require mostly different gear for racing. Except for the radio system most other stuff does not cross over
So it would require two complete racing setups.

So for your money it would be cheaper to buy one electric 10th scale TC and race it both summer and winter. The only gear that may change would be your tires. And you wear out tires regardless of which type of racing you choose.

Now of course this comes from an electric guy, so you have to tak it with a grain of salt.

We need all the help we can get to get more lectric guys out racing at Tinley next summer

thunderbt3 · #**2438** 12-10-2003, 11:24 AM

hehe, i hear ya wrx, it was probably one of those kids from timbers rc club, thier parents are rich and buy thier kids everything, i dont see them there much anymore. anyways, at my first race there, i was driving my little bro's rc10gt in rookie class with a kid with a tmaxx. All he kept doing was trying to run me over, he did once but did nothing cuz he spun me out and he just ramped me and got on 2 wheels. so since i knew what he was about (bashing me and stuff) i let him take the lead off the start then i just came up behind him and gave him a hard smack in the back and then a little while later u hear this awful noise coming from his truck and i guess i banged his truck hard enough that i shifted the engine over a little bit and stripped the spur gear

, so the third and final heat i let him take me off the line cuz i knew if i got in front of him first, all he would wanna do was bash me and i knew that my gt would take him out no problem on the straightaway after the first lap so i waited and i blew him away on the straight, then the dude that fixed the spur gear forgot to put locktite on the screws and the engine came loose and i won

. im not a basher or anything, im just looking for good clean racing. Even the grow guys there race dirty, theyre not that nice off track too. They're too concerned about racing and beating kids (HA). Like after i was done with my first race, went up to some guy asking what kind of car he was running cuz i popped a rear toe link on the ntc3 and lost the race to him. he just looked at me and turned back to his "pit" which was sitting in his truck until his next heat. I went over there and looked at it and it was a 4tec

it could keep up with me/ catch up to me in the straight but the car was attracted to ever corner like a magnet hehe. Do alot of people that run nitro over the summer run ntc3's? id wanna see if i could learn more about setting a car up and how to use those setup boards, ill snap a couple of pics of my riced out body, it used to be the sweetest looking thing ever, untill i decided to race it at st. charles

btw, im asian too so im aloud to use "riced out, rice burner, rice rocket" its all coo hehe

most of u guys dont live too far from me, IM me sometime, thunderbt3 on AIM

Walt · #**2439** 12-10-2003, 11:51 AM

We definitely have a more 'serious' following than St. Charles, and our good drivers will give you the shirt off their backs if it would help you out.. many of them will also yell at you if you get in their way during a race, but they quickly get over it, plus, with a big enough turn out (like we get in Tinley), you won't be racing against them anyways.

The popular nitro touring cars at our track are the NTC3, the Serpent cars, and probably the HPI R40 next year. All are fine and will get the job done. The NTC3 probably has the best part support around here and at our track (which is nice), but all three are fine. If you got a Koyosho or a Mugen, you'll probably have trouble keeping the car running due to lack of parts.

Rookie Solara · #**2440** 12-10-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Walt
We don't have a 'newbie' class per se, but we do get a really good turn out for nitro touring cars (often about 30 guys), so we have enough people to separate out the old timers from the new guys. Our 'C' or 'D' main will have beginners in it, so you won't feel out of place, and if you can win our A-main you're pretty darn good.

That is not true...........Brian from www.chicagorc.com and I are usually the top qualifiers in the newbie class.........since we rarely show up to the race, and even if we are racing, we were rarely finish the race..........so I think our class is considered "newbie"...LOL

Walt....hows your look on Sunday...? Mine is like 70/30 now since I will have to paint the wall on SAT.

Walt · #**2441** 12-10-2003, 01:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
Walt....hows your look on Sunday...? Mine is like 70/30 now since I will have to paint the wall on SAT.

It's looking pretty good for me this Sunday. I hope I'll see you there.

Homer Allman · #**2442** 12-10-2003, 01:19 PM

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warpainter · #**2443** 12-10-2003, 02:53 PM

ok no more excuses rookie ive done some math and ive re calculated your chances i figure your chances are a houndred percent being that you can paint that wall any day i hope we start gettin more 12th guys or im going to have to go and race tc again

T-Racer · #**2444** 12-10-2003, 03:56 PM

Take your itsy tiny poka dot skirt off rookie lol and come play with the big dogs and make sure you bring your race face. Because these guys in 1/12 scale are brutal. i no your tufff when you take off that skirt

See Ya on Sunday

T racer

pev942 · #**2445** 12-10-2003, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by T-Racer
Take your itsy tiny poka dot skirt off rookie lol and come play with the big dogs and make sure you bring your race face. Because these guys in 1/12 scale are brutal. i no your tufff when you take off that skirt

See Ya on Sunday

T racer

tony sorry i couldnt make it tonight just wondering if there is gonna be racing next week wednesday

T-Racer · #**2446** 12-11-2003, 01:19 AM

yes one more week then a break for the holidays

T-Racer · #**2447** 12-11-2003, 01:20 AM

SANTA WIL BE THERE FOR YOU JJ NEXT WEEK

Rookie Solara · #**2448** 12-11-2003, 01:19 PM

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Originally posted by warpainter
ok no more excuses rookie ive done some math and ive re calculated your chances i figure your chances are a houndred percent being that you can paint that wall any day i hope we start gettin more 12th guys or im going to have to go and race tc again

Ok....since the MASTET Warpainter called my name out, I better get my ass off the house and get some 12th scale action....if not, BEER on me next time...

I really want to check out your Reflex........not going to buy one but just love the LOW-PRO design.

For all 12th scale ppl............I've seen those who actually RACE their 12th scale professionally (like those on the magazine)...they have all those tinny little Ni-Cd cells (5 cells 6v) for their receiver hooked up, so the radio gears does not have to draw the power from the 4 cells 3300..........what SIZE are those batteries...? Any PROS and CONS...? (I know, for me, that really doesn't matter, but I just want to know why they do that...)

Walt · #**2449** 12-11-2003, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
Ok....since the MASTET Warpainter called my name out, I better get my ass off the house and get some 12th scale action....if not, BEER on me next time...

I really want to check out your Reflex........not going to buy one but just love the LOW-PRO design.

For all 12th scale ppl............I've seen those who actually RACE their 12th scale professionally (like those on the magazine)...they have all those tinny little Ni-Cd cells (5 cells 6v) for their receiver hooked up, so the radio gears does not have to draw the power from the 4 cells 3300..........what SIZE are those batteries...? Any PROS and CONS...? (I know, for me, that really doesn't matter, but I just want to know why they do that...)

I don't see any reason to go with the extra batteries (receiver battery pack) unless battery power is an issue. We have 1000+ mAh's left in our packs after our races, so I don't see any point to running the receiver pack. If we were running 8 minute modified, and therefore pulling every last bit of 'juice' out of our batteries, then I could see carrying around the receiver pack (especially if we had to add weight to get up to minimum weight anyways... add lead or add batteries.. might as well add batteries).

The only other issue I see is that with the little receiver pack you can have higher voltage to the steering servo, but I think that the speed of these servos at 4.8 volts is faster than we need it to be anyways (faster than I can rotate my wrist), so that's not really an issue.

As for the size of those batteries, I saw them on Espo's car at AJ's the week before Cleveland, and they looked like 1/3rd AAA's or something like that (diameter of a AAA cell, but 1/3rd the length), but that' just a guess.

Rookie Solara · #**2450** 12-11-2003, 03:28 PM

Agreed.........I just want to know what are those batteries called? And just in case we are going for 8 minutes 19T, that will be the option......