Associated Nitro TC3 Thread v4.0 - Page 3

frank13 · #51 05-06-2003, 09:36 PM

ok try this,

set the car as per manual,

dump those tires for 45 front and 40 rears, and go from there,

too much steering,, stiffen the rear, too lil steering soften it,, but start as the manual suggest,, if not you will never get it right

mckrooz · #52 05-06-2003, 10:51 PM

How is the car handling? The yellow springs should be matched with 60wt oil and #3 piston. Make sure the ride height is set at 5mm. Try switching the yellows to the front and red to the back.

Frank13- Isn't it the other way around? Too much steering, soften the back. Too little steering, stiffen the back?

jscamry · #53 05-07-2003, 01:53 AM

has anyone tried the tip on http://www.rc411.com/index2.html

This is from RC411.com

Remove the ball ends from your car. Head to the hobby shop and pick up a pack of 4-40 setscrews, and a 4-40 tap and drill set. Locate a spot on the suspension arms about 3/8 of an inch
from the end of the arm. Drill a hole into the arm so that the drill is pointed perfectly centered over the hole that the ball end will screw into. Drill the hole but stop once you go through to the mounting hole. Next use your 4-40 tap and tap the hole you just drilled. Now reinsert your ball ends and set the suspension how you want it. Thread one of the 4-40 set screws into the hole you just cut. Tighten it until you feel the setscrew snug up against the ball end. Repeat the process to all four corners as needed.

Thanks Jason

mckrooz · #54 05-07-2003, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by jscamry
has anyone tried the tip on http://www.rc411.com/index2.html

This is from RC411.com

Remove the ball ends from your car. Head to the hobby shop and pick up a pack of 4-40 setscrews, and a 4-40 tap and drill set. Locate a spot on the suspension arms about 3/8 of an inch
from the end of the arm. Drill a hole into the arm so that the drill is pointed perfectly centered over the hole that the ball end will screw into. Drill the hole but stop once you go through to the mounting hole. Next use your 4-40 tap and tap the hole you just drilled. Now reinsert your ball ends and set the suspension how you want it. Thread one of the 4-40 set screws into the hole you just cut. Tighten it until you feel the setscrew snug up against the ball end. Repeat the process to all four corners as needed.

Thanks Jason

Thats a good tip. Another one that a guy at the track told me is get a q-tip and strip the cotton off one end. Then coat it with Elmers glue and stick it in the a-arm and coat the inside. Then re-install the pivot ball. Works like loc-tite and not as strong as CA glue.

Rookie Solara · #55 05-07-2003, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by us_matrix
Hi Rookie,

You're always stay at the top. But it would be a pain if doing the third suggestion (tubing). Just wondering, did you do it or just let it be

No....I didn't do that YET....cause I decided to use #4 solution - stay away from the board and other cars............

About the pillow ball things........I use Plumbing use Teflon tape.....do it like plumbing pipe....

Besides....that doesn't bother me, I had 6 (yes, SIX) bented pillow balls on last SAT/SUN racing.........cracked one tank and a small dent on the pipe..........my cheap "FIX" actually DOES hold up for all the accident (both front and rear diff case/shock towes are in perfect condition).....but now I really need to consider the MUGEN pillow balls modificaiton.....

NTC3Fan · #56 05-07-2003, 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
No....I didn't do that YET....cause I decided to use #4 solution - stay away from the board and other cars............

About the pillow ball things........I use Plumbing use Teflon tape.....do it like plumbing pipe....

Besides....that doesn't bother me, I had 6 (yes, SIX) bented pillow balls on last SAT/SUN racing.........cracked one tank and a small dent on the pipe..........my cheap "FIX" actually DOES hold up for all the accident (both front and rear diff case/shock towes are in perfect condition).....but now I really need to consider the MUGEN pillow balls modificaiton.....

Hey Rookie...
what exactly is the Mugan fix if i might ask???

(btw there is something at the post office - doesnt say from where tho

)

Rookie Solara · #57 05-07-2003, 02:55 PM

I had 6 bent pillow balls from my last week SAT and SUN race....not ONE major hit, just simply tapping to the other cars, not even kissing WALLS......and those pillow balls are like toothpicks, absolutely GARBAGE......

The MUGEN thing is, ppl using MUGEN pillow balls instead of the NTC3, they are thicker in diameter, but it is not plug and play, you have to drill out the arms a little, go back 3-4 pages and you can see someone mentioned how to do that...I will give that a shot, since i have nothing to lose.

Still haven't receive the stuff I send to you...? Are you sure you went to the post office or you went to the POLICE station for mail..?

us_matrix · #58 05-07-2003, 03:34 PM

Yeah Rookie,

Keep us updated if you can use the Mugen pillow ball instead. The stock one is totally POS and the factory team are the same.

Pro3/nmt105 · #59 05-07-2003, 07:08 PM

I heard the TIR pillowballs are the best, I think their site is www.titaniumracing.com

Pro3/nmt105 · #60 05-07-2003, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by nitrojunkee
having a heck of a time hooking my ntc3 up on the somewhat prepped parking lot track at hobbytown(they spray it down with sugar water..). im running sirio outlaw, with team orion 26mm foams all the way around, 30 shore up front, and 35 in the rear. red springs in the front, yellow in the rear with 40wt oil all the way around. ride height and all other suspension geometry is stock recommendations. i have a feeling im way off on my setup, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. also im running a jr xr2 am radio, and glitching during races pretty bad. id like to upgrade to the xs3, or the r1 radio any thoughts???
thanks, mark.

Is the rear end sliding out? Its probably because your using the tires in the wrong locations. You supposed to run a harder tire in the front and a softer tire in the rear, or the same all round. If you run harder rear tires it will probably cause your rear end to slide out. So run the 35 shore in the front and the 30 shore in the rear.

fastharry · #61 05-07-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
I had 6 bent pillow balls from my last week SAT and SUN race....not ONE major hit, just simply tapping to the other cars, not even kissing WALLS......and those pillow balls are like toothpicks, absolutely GARBAGE......

The MUGEN thing is, ppl using MUGEN pillow balls instead of the NTC3, they are thicker in diameter, but it is not plug and play, you have to drill out the arms a little, go back 3-4 pages and you can see someone mentioned how to do that...I will give that a shot, since i have nothing to lose.

Still haven't receive the stuff I send to you...? Are you sure you went to the post office or you went to the POLICE station for mail..?

rookie,are you sure about that?....just tapping other cars?.....I ran a 30 minute main on a 250 ft track on sunday,and have the yellow paint on the wheel nuts to prove it(from the boards)...

and that includes practicing with 1/8th scales also(and I got a few love taps from them also)

my car is in perfect tweak......and not one part is bent...(btw,finshed 4th,a main)....

GP40X · #62 05-07-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
I had 6 bent pillow balls from my last week SAT and SUN race....not ONE major hit, just simply tapping to the other cars, not even kissing WALLS......and those pillow balls are like toothpicks, absolutely GARBAGE......

The MUGEN thing is, ppl using MUGEN pillow balls instead of the NTC3, they are thicker in diameter, but it is not plug and play, you have to drill out the arms a little, go back 3-4 pages and you can see someone mentioned how to do that...I will give that a shot, since i have nothing to lose.

Still haven't receive the stuff I send to you...? Are you sure you went to the post office or you went to the POLICE station for mail..?
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Originally posted by fastharry:

rookie,are you sure about that?....just tapping other cars?.....I ran a 30 minute main on a 250 ft track on sunday,and have the yellow paint on the wheel nuts to prove it(from the boards)...

and that includes practicing with 1/8th scales also(and I got a few love taps from them also)

my car is in perfect tweak......and not one part is bent...(btw,finshed 4th,a main)....

It's time for my weekly race maintenance. That includes replacing the front lower pivot balls. Every time I race I usually bend the front lower pivot balls. The front upper & all 4 rear pivot balls have not bent yet. Of cource I usually leave divots ground in the track boards (they look like a small router has attacked the track boards) because I tend to bounce off of them a lot DOH I also cracked another diff case last weekend but luckily the guy who carries "The Fix" finally showed up. After the three heats both outer screws on the front diff case feel like they are stripped & I can see a hairline crack in the left front screw hole. Installing the fix kept me from a rush job of installing the last diff case I have in my personal parts stash. I'm thinking about trying the Mugen pivot balls on the extra set of front A-arms I have. I also blew a right rear outer wheel bearing in the third heat last Sunday so I had to do a quick bearing install. Luckily it only clearanced the right rear hub a small amount & the bearing I installed let me take a second place in the Novice Nitro A Main. I was the slowest car on the track by about a second a lap over most cars there (no two speed yet & I still run the RTR restrictor). I mossed the first lap pileup & actually led the first lap before getting passed by the eventual winner of the race. I figue this was pretty good considering I had a stalling problem & only qualified 6th after having a stalling problem all day. I finally corrected it by increasing the idle almost to the point the clutch is engaging. I see copper clutch springs in my near future. The one thing you have to understand about this is I have dished out an incredible amount of punishment on the car. Why do people keep saying the car is too fradigle to race?

Bill (Nitro TC3 RTR Racer)

frank13 · #63 05-07-2003, 09:38 PM

the ntc3 is not fragile, i race at teh alpine lounge in turnersville, nj and it is a parking lot series, very organised, and i crash alot,, and i mean i banged the hell outta my car, and like pro3 said i have the paint on the wheel nuts to prove it,, i dont use graphite parts, and my car is basically stock except the chasis and some lighwieght drive stuff,

and all i have broken are two diff cases and one shock tower, in three monthes of runnign and racing , yeah last year i broke some pillow balls and various parts, but that is the way life is, if i DONT CRASH i dont break anythigmn , i have owned hpi cars that when you look at em they break,
this car is very easy to work on and it does have a weak point in a crash in the cases and shock towers, but how easy is it to fix, two minutes, 6 screws and 4 bucks, atleast it isnt an serpernt and it cost like 30 bucks to fix one thing,
hey maybe ofna got the shock towers and diff cases fixed, they should bolt right in ,,, i ordered a diff from them as it looks like a direct fit, to see if it would fit,

has anyone noticed how nice the ntc3 kfactory parts fit on the ld3,, lol

frank13

TC3Kamikaze · #64 05-07-2003, 11:23 PM

I'd like to hear your findings Frank if they indeed fit. I'm waiting for a LHS to get their order of Kfactory tanks in. I like how it's setup, real slick compared to the stock tank. Anyone running RD Logics cases? If they rock I might give em a try and skip getting the fix.
TC3

frank13 · #65 05-08-2003, 12:21 AM

i am getting a set delivered to me tommorrow from rd, ill le tyou know next weekend

NTC3Fan · #66 05-08-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara

Still haven't receive the stuff I send to you...? Are you sure you went to the post office or you went to the POLICE station for mail..?

Yeah it was some stuff from AMD... not the Axils.... must be sitting at the police station....

titanium Bullets

Rookie Solara · #67 05-08-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fastharry
rookie,are you sure about that?....just tapping other cars?.....I ran a 30 minute main on a 250 ft track on sunday,and have the yellow paint on the wheel nuts to prove it(from the boards)...

and that includes practicing with 1/8th scales also(and I got a few love taps from them also)

my car is in perfect tweak......and not one part is bent...(btw,finshed 4th,a main)....

YES, positive.......NO WALLS (which I was very good STAYING away from)......all the impacts are from other cars, and the CORNER DISHES, which are metal (if that is part of the wall, then I did touch the wall)....but I think I should not use the word TAPPING, it is a little more then TAPPING...like car hitting car kinda impact, you know what I am saying...

Those pillow balls are BENTABLE, I can easily bent them back to close to straight.......however, I usually have to bent the top and bottom balls cause they usually bent together (that make sences cause the steering hubs are connected to both top and bottom balls, so they both bent to 2 different/opposite direction)

Besides those pillow balls........NTC3 are accepable, and I did not say the WHOLE car is garbage/fragile.......just certain parts of the car are really the designer problem issue.

fastharry · #68 05-08-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
YES, positive.......NO WALLS (which I was very good STAYING away from)......all the impacts are from other cars, and the CORNER DISHES, which are metal (if that is part of the wall, then I did touch the wall)....but I think I should not use the word TAPPING, it is a little more then TAPPING...like car hitting car kinda impact, you know what I am saying...

Those pillow balls are BENTABLE, I can easily bent them back to close to straight.......however, I usually have to bent the top and bottom balls cause they usually bent together (that make sences cause the steering hubs are connected to both top and bottom balls, so they both bent to 2 different/opposite direction)

Besides those pillow balls........NTC3 are accepable, and I did not say the WHOLE car is garbage/fragile.......just certain parts of the car are really the designer problem issue.

I know you like your car.....

NickBurns · #69 05-08-2003, 10:26 PM

I have noticed that my spur gears are getting pretty beat up. Most of it is from small smal rocks, a little larger then sand are getting caught in the mesh and messing up the plastic gears.

Is it a pain in the ass to replace spur gears. I figured that people must change them depending on tracks so it can't be that invloved. I hate having to take my diffs off the chassis.

2nd do they make metal spur gears?

Thanks

Ian

powertrip · #70 05-09-2003, 03:52 AM

I can't seem to find shocks for the NTC3 (well, I've only looked in tower.. L0L)... but basically I need to get something for my NTC3... it was an RTR that was given to me, basically all I have done to it is a 2 speed tranny and hooked it up to my JR XS3 receiver.. I put a high speed steering servo as well.. what else can i do to get more out of this thing?? tuned pipe on the stock .12??? or something else? not looking into getting a new motor till alot later.

rcaddiction · #71 05-09-2003, 08:39 AM

Hey guys! Quick question. Do bodies make a difference in racing?
I don't have allot of time, so I'm considering buying one of Atomik's shells for my GT. I've noticed that no one seems to use them in racing. All I see are Pro-Line Crowd Pleazers and GMC LPs. The track that I'm going to race on has a 170 foot back straight, so if Aero is an issue, I'll just go with the status quo.
Thanks!

HauntedMyst · #72 05-09-2003, 10:08 AM

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Originally posted by Rookie Solara
YES, positive.......NO WALLS (which I was very good STAYING away from)......all the impacts are from other cars, and the CORNER DISHES, which are metal (if that is part of the wall, then I did touch the wall)....but I think I should not use the word TAPPING, it is a little more then TAPPING...like car hitting car kinda impact, you know what I am saying...

I can vouch for this. In the 3 years I've been watching Rookie race, I've never seen him have any kind of major accident. He is very good at driving around accidents.

rcaddiction · #73 05-09-2003, 10:08 AM

Sorry guys wrong forum!

Rookie Solara · #74 05-09-2003, 10:46 AM

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Originally posted by HauntedMyst
I can vouch for this. In the 3 years I've been watching Rookie race, I've never seen him have any kind of major accident. He is very good at driving around accidents.

HauntedMyst..........good to see you here, and please, get your NTC3 ready and join the AE team, I am almost the only NTC3 left (did you know Albert just jumped the boat and back to 705 camp?) I am by myself ONCE again.......

Distro · #75 05-09-2003, 01:42 PM

gah got noobed