Brushless Motor Forum v1.0 - Page 15

hyperrev · #**351** 09-07-2002, 01:10 AM

In regards to the Aveox motor and controller, They are fast. The Aveox RC 7 Oval is a 1.5 turn motor, but I have no idea if that it is comparable to a 1.5 turn brushed motor, if there is even such a thing. The controller that you mention should either be a 160 or a 360 controller from Aveox. It has reverse and no lag time when you go from forward to reverse. I personally prefer that it has a lag time for durability reasons on both the controller and motor. Just remember that the Aveox controllers are fairly big and you have to do some modifications on 1/10 sedans if you want them to fit. Brushless motors have tons of torque. You can gear way up and still peel all four tires when you slam the throttle. Get a brushless...you cant go wrong!

turbo your .15 · #**352** 09-07-2002, 02:18 AM

why is the motor so expensive? in theroy they should be simpler. i can under stand the speed controler costing alot becuause on the new sensorless motors the controller has to have a complex hall effect feed back sens circuit.

Popop · #**353** 09-07-2002, 04:25 AM

Hey all
Did you noticed Airage stuff still isn't able to show B/L projects ?
Are these guys glued by the system or scoop makers ??

I WANT TO SEE B/L CARS REVIEWS IN RCCA (for the cash I pay overseas for this mag !)

crono man · #**354** 09-07-2002, 10:29 AM

turbo .15-brushless are expensive because...

1.they use very expensive magnets(that are about 20 times stronger than normal brushed magnets)

2.they are actually handwound(the electro magnet part)

to be honest brushless motors that use the same magnets as normal brushed motor are about at the same price as a hand wound trinity motor

ElectricThunder · #**355** 09-07-2002, 10:33 AM

Hey all, i just registered and i have a question for you all. Would a Lehner 4200 and a warrior controller be a good setup for a T3?

GTpanda · #**356** 09-07-2002, 11:55 AM

RCCA is not an independent magazine, it will show you what their sponsors want to sell, and BL is going to destroy a golden heaven paved in lathes, brushes, armatures and the like...

ever wondered why (given the magazine Nitro exists) there's so little electric in RCCA? I only buy a few a year now, once upon a time I'd even subscribe (and no, it isn't cheap overseas)

crono man · #**357** 09-07-2002, 01:01 PM

electricthunder-the 4200 lehner is a damn good motor(but be aware it does not have a flat spot for the pinion gear)

the warrior speed control,dont know much about that(ive heard it has some cogging problems)check this link out for more info-->http://pub21.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtr...cID=1135.topic

and here-->http://pub21.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtr...cID=1069.topic

hope this help

ElectricThunder · #**358** 09-07-2002, 01:34 PM

thanks crono man, i appreciate it. I'll check out those links later. Thanks again!

Simen123 · #**359** 09-07-2002, 02:51 PM

hi,
I`m about to purchase a brushless setup for use with 6cells in my Xray, and I am wondering about a few things;
- Will I need a reciever pack if I use the warrior 7018 esc(with 6 cells on a basic 4200 or 5300) to prevent "cogging"?
- Is it any chance for that the 7018esc will thermal when using the 4200 or 5300(in a 6cell tourer)?
- Or would even the 3100 motor work well in the touring car(if the risk for thermal is big with the 4200 or 5300..)?

I don`t Need anything faster than something similar to a good 12T brushed motor.

Thank you!

#**360** 09-07-2002, 05:40 PM

OWWWWWWWIEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
I just fell off my 'blades. Going 'bout 30. Got caught in a crack. Can't feel my wrists. Having trouble typing. I'm now going to take a bath in peroxide. They should be able to hear my screams from space.

crono man · #**361** 09-07-2002, 07:32 PM

ouch!!!!!

take it easy there soya wrist pains are a bummer(i should know i ride downhill mountain biking)

put some ice on it..then take a long hot bath

should clear up in no time

k_sw31 · #**362** 09-07-2002, 08:54 PM

which reminds me, in june i dumped on my dirt bike, ripped open my knee etc.

A month later as i was all healed, i was getting off my quad when my knee caught on the seat and ripped a bunch more skin off.

Just shows how much of a clutz i am.

#**363** 09-07-2002, 11:30 PM

I had pizza tonight. Let's see, molten sauce, open wounds....

k_sw31 · #**364** 09-07-2002, 11:56 PM

my knee was hamburger, num

ElectricThunder · #**365** 09-08-2002, 12:38 PM

I'm in karate, and i have to spar (fight) against black belts!!!!! Lucky me, i'm good at it, but i've been kicked in the jaw, below the belt, and every where else. Anyways, another question, where should i get a b/l system from? I mean, which is the most reputable company to order form? thanks in advanced!!!!

k_sw31 · #**366** 09-08-2002, 12:42 PM

i did karate in kindergarden!

Some good sites for bl setups,

www.rumrunnerhobbies.com

www.finedesignrc.com

ElectricThunder · #**367** 09-08-2002, 12:49 PM

Thanks K, i'll check into all that. What belt did you make it up to? I started about 2 1/2 years ago, so i'm red(3 from black, YAY!!!). But thanks again dude. I aprreciate your help.

k_sw31 · #**368** 09-08-2002, 12:53 PM

actually did it for a year or two and made it up to an orange belt.

Simen123 · #**369** 09-08-2002, 01:51 PM

could anyone help me with the post above?
that would be great. I`ve been at rumrunnerhobbies, aveox, finedesign, maxxtraxx, here, HPI forum, maximizerproducts and most of the BL sites, but I haven`t found any answers

k_sw31 · #**370** 09-08-2002, 03:08 PM

you don't need a reciever pack for the lehner setup, but i heard it helps alot.

The esc probably won't thermal on 6 cells, or it better not

you could use the 3100 but keep in mind you'd only have 20000 r's on 6 cells, the 4200 would give you about about 28000, and the 5300 would give you about 35000 rpms, keep in mind with the 3100 you could gear way up cuz of the much stronger neo magnets (versus standard ferrite mags) and make it go as fast or maybe even faster than a 12 turn.

But the 4200 or the 5300 would be more suitably mached to you.

Simen123 · #**371** 09-08-2002, 03:26 PM

So the 3100 has stronger magnets than the 5300/4200? Would it develop more heat to get the same speed as the 4200 out of the 3100?
thank you!

k_sw31 · #**372** 09-08-2002, 03:47 PM

no, they all have super strong magnets, i'm sure it would get slightly hotter to gear a 3100 up so it wuold goe as fast as a 4200 with lower gearing. But cuz of the increased efficiency of bl motors, they stay cooler anyways.

crono man · #**373** 09-08-2002, 09:15 PM

15 runs...today i was at my track and my car stopped moving so i opened up my motor and to my surprise my chameleon pro motor commutator was ground away i could see the freakin insolation under the copper segments!

thats it NO MORE F@#$KIN BRUSHED MOTORS if somebody tells me that a brushed motor has ANY avantages(aside of powering the hairdryer)il go A-WALL

that lady and gentlemen was my last brushed motor..trinity can go stuff their red machined brian kinwald matt francis crap up somebody else A H@LE

rawbert · #**374** 09-08-2002, 09:49 PM

Tell me about it. You know what sucks? I want to go out and have 5 pratice runs, with my 12 turn, and then have to take the motor out, take the brushes out, cut the comm, change the brushes, repeat breakin method, and then get another 5 runs and repeat the process.

Aveox RC7, here I come, at least I won't need to take you out of my truck once your in, vrooooooooooooooommmmm..

k_sw31 · #**375** 09-08-2002, 09:50 PM

you can calm down a little bit, besides, i go through endbells at a furious pace.