Tamiya TA04S/SS/R/R-Tuned/TRF Forum V2.1 - Page 8

k_bojar · #**176** 11-14-2003, 10:42 AM

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Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
The only thing i need to add is the rear racing sway bar, ti screws, ti, axles, and ti upper links/steering links...

Damn...and I thought I dropped a couple of bux into my 04R

But then again, I race mine every week and bougth and sold the "higher end" tamiya racers to go back to my 04R

minijosh · #**177** 11-14-2003, 01:48 PM

I am getting a ta04R for 85 pounds. Not a bad price for a race car hehe. Might have to retire my SS.

TRF Drive Hard · #**178** 11-14-2003, 01:50 PM

Sounds less than 150usd... is it nib? or used?

minijosh · #**179** 11-14-2003, 03:48 PM

this will make you mad. it is rtr with esc and such hehe.

Tl-01 dude88 · #**180** 11-15-2003, 08:23 AM

so how do you guys think about with the tao4-s comparing it to to the TC3?

Better worse?

ohh nice pics kameleonmn and Ta03DH

kameleonmn · #**181** 11-15-2003, 04:07 PM

Well, my trf spec R-tuned is almost complete...but does anyone know where I can get the Blue aluminum steering arms?...I've looked everywhere and can't find it...the places that do have it is out of stock. Does anyone have a set that they want to sell?...if so email me. I found some on ebay but its only the silver ones. Probably won't mind that much, but blue is cooler, but if I can't find the blue ones then i'll probably just get the silver ones. Let me know...thanks. BTW thanks tl01.

k_bojar · #**182** 11-17-2003, 08:00 AM

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Originally posted by Tl-01 dude88
so how do you guys think about with the tao4-s comparing it to to the TC3?

Better worse?

ohh nice pics kameleonmn and Ta03DH

You really shouldnt compare them...They are 2 completely different cars...The TA04S is a SPORT chassis - not specifically made for competitive racing...The TC3 is a high-end race bred, race specific machine...The 04S has plastic molded parts (not better quality composite parts) - the TC3 has rigid molded composite parts out of the box

Shaft drive is more efficient than belt drive cars...Blah blah blah...I'm sure you've heard ALL the arguements

I'm know knocking the 04 chassis - I race one every week and beat TC3s...And I've owned a couple of TC3s but I always end up selling them and going back to my 04R chassis...Its the best handling chassis I've ever driven based on my driving style

k_bojar · #**183** 11-17-2003, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by TA03 Drive Hard
This is my R-Tuned 04... with every blue optional part... even the caster blocks...

You dont have every blue option part

You're missing the blue spring retainers and the blue aluminum shock mounts (top black plastic piece)

I've been throwing around the idea of getting the last piece - just because its gonna make the shocks more durable in high speed crashes

I broke one of the plastic mounts before during a bad race crash - real cool looking crash, bad for the car

minijosh · #**184** 11-17-2003, 01:21 PM

Well I race my TA04-SS against xxx-s's, tc3's, pro 3's, and schumachers and I still keep up with them with no problem. I am still learning to race and so are the others. The only hop up I have done is the awesome phat shocks that are part of the trf series of shocks. You know the floruene coated ones. Other than that, it is stock.

TRF Drive Hard · #**185** 11-17-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by k_bojar
You dont have every blue option part You're missing the blue spring retainers and the blue aluminum shock mounts (top black plastic piece)

I've been throwing around the idea of getting the last piece - just because its gonna make the shocks more durable in high speed crashes I broke one of the plastic mounts before during a bad race crash - real cool looking crash, bad for the car

As a matter of fact i do have the blue shock retainers... and i also have the top caps... but i did not install it in those set of shocks... why, because they are not really that great... they dont have cushions to mount with... its metal on metal... and no mounting hardware is provided... how its suppose to mount is beyound me... i only mounted a set on my trf version... IMHO, the plastic mounts are better...

TRF Drive Hard · #**186** 11-17-2003, 03:50 PM

Hey guys check this out... i decided to experiment with my TRF... instead of having torque rods i replaced them with damper units... this i call Reactive Damper Torque Control...

rather than having stiffness the RDTC can be adjusted... using the short springs and using the same shock fluid in front... or you can try different weights... but i suggest soft or medium springs with 10-40 weight oil... the stiffness can be adjusted by twisting the collar... this, in my theory, can help the cornering roll... lol i dont make sense... anyways i thought this might be fun and see what kinda characteristics i can expect... who knows, it might work... but it has to help in some way... here's a pic... btw, it looks cool too

minijosh · #**187** 11-17-2003, 04:56 PM

How does that handle TA03? Looks kind of weird. I guess the only bad this about that would be the added weight of the shocks vs with the torque rods.

minijosh · #**188** 11-17-2003, 05:01 PM

Oh a question for you racers out there. Why haven't I seen any of your/my cars with the cvd's? I have only seen the dog bone drive shafts. I have heard that the cvd's gives alot more power to the ground because of less slop in the axle. Is that true and if so, why doesn't everyone have them? I found that tower does sell them for like 30 bucks a axle.

yf22k · #**189** 11-17-2003, 05:04 PM

unless i'm mistaken i think i see mostly universals...

minijosh · #**190** 11-17-2003, 05:49 PM

Yeah I think that is what I meant to say not cvd's but they are the same thing. link http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXETM2&P=7

yf22k · #**191** 11-17-2003, 06:16 PM

yeah from the looks of these pics they do have universals. I don't think they make blue dogbones...

TRF Drive Hard · #**192** 11-17-2003, 07:46 PM

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Originally posted by minijosh
How does that handle TA03? Looks kind of weird. I guess the only bad this about that would be the added weight of the shocks vs with the torque rods.

I did not get a chance to test it yet... i was sleepy... work is so tiredsome

TEM · #**193** 11-18-2003, 10:35 PM

Where does the confusion come from(perhaps poor naming of parts in websites that sells the stuff?). Lower end models come with dog bones(yes more slop), and universals in the R or better. Blue ones are optional if you want them lighter(put them in rear only due to durability issues). The slop will hurt you when you accelerate initially(each wheel turns slightly differently on the fly cause one has more slop), and stability around a corner(for the same reason but amplified cause you are turning!). Mind you, universals won't save your butt in this sense if you have worn outdrives(dimples forming where the little pin comes into contact with them). And because of the design, weight, etc; the universals are lighter and more efficient.

TA03DH, those shocks in place of the torque rods look nice but I am not sure about those in terms of actual performance; might make your car do weird things cause the way shocks behave. I don't know... Something to do when you have EVERYTHING! Yes you!....

TRF Drive Hard · #**194** 11-18-2003, 10:41 PM

Well im not sure what sense i am making or doining... but im hoping some kind of improved steering response... if you could help me what sort of "sense" it might make or do i gladly appreciate it... i have not yet tested this... its been raining AAALLLLLLLLLLLL freakin day...

k_bojar · #**195** 11-19-2003, 10:25 AM

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Originally posted by minijosh
Yeah I think that is what I meant to say not cvd's but they are the same thing. link http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXETM2&P=7

To the viewer, the a dogbone and CVD/Universal look the same...The place where the look different is inside the axle cup, which most of the time you cannot see from a pic...

Looking at the pics, TA03HD is running cvds in his cars...If you see someone running the blue aluminum ones, then they are running CVD - or at least Tamiya's version of a cvd since there is not really a universal (think HPI/Yokomo looking universals) of sorts available for the 04 series....The Tamiya universals look like the MIP cvds

turbo s15 · #**196** 11-27-2003, 12:27 PM

can someone give a link to the right suspension arms so just incase i want to fit other bodies on the ta04ss and use other bodies.

is there a link on tower.

thanks

turbo s15 · #**197** 11-28-2003, 06:26 PM

how bad do rocks get caught in the ta04's

TRF Drive Hard · #**198** 11-29-2003, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by turbo s15
how bad do rocks get caught in the ta04's

Depends on what surface... typically a clean prepped surface works best... but if youre running it on a unlclean surface, you risk the chance of getting pebbles inside the belt and getting it chewed up and grinding your spur and pinion with tiny tiny pebbles that get caught between the teeth...

minijosh · #**199** 11-29-2003, 03:12 AM

I run mine outdoors on Saturdays and I have never got a rock in my spur/pinion. The pavement is sort of clean thanks to the wind but now that I said that I will get one today. Hey DriveHard, what are the yellow trf springs rated at?

TheoDR · #**200** 11-29-2003, 09:39 AM

I just switched back to the lightweight composite chassis from the carbon fibre one. Allows me to place the components low down on the chassis. Previously on the CF chassis, I had to mount the reciever and failsafe on top of the servo, since the ESC took up whatever space there was on the left side of the chassis. Gonna try out the handling later. Heh..I think my 04's done up somewhere in between 04R and TRF specs...