[CRSMP5]

im the guy who posted on the other board..

kep the stock tires and try them if you are on hard clay/bluegroove surface, then decide after you try

i changed my engine and electronics before i ever used mine, change the center diff oil to 50k, look thru the thread on tips for improvement on questionable engineering of the truck to resolve those few simple to fix issues, and you will like it..

[winning edge designs]

Kieth, check out our J Concepts MGT/LST Illuzion truck body at www.jconcepts.net. It also fits all other big trucks, in fact I have it on my LSP and it's in the video clips listed on starting grid at the beginning and end of the vid. It's of course under the Maxy's thread.....

Kansascajun, I liked 30K center diff, 5,000 front and 50 wt front shocks, 55 rear. I also installed the included suspesion stop(aka grub) screws in the arms with locktite to prevent shock breakage trouble. We also double up the front hinge pin plate, then use a drill and tap to install a set screw to hold the hinge pins in the rear block, rather then e-clips, since it will be a little short after the mod. Some racers here are even drilling the chassis to bolt the front,rear, suspension pin mount to the chassis with two nuts and bolts. I have not done that mod yet. The Ofna Jammin X1 center chassis brace looks like it may cure our center flexing problem too, once it's available?......good luck, Jim, Winning Edge Designs, J concepts

[KansasCajun]

Originally Posted by winning edge designs

Kansascajun,
We also double up the front hinge pin plate, then use a drill and tap to install a set screw to hold the hinge pins in the rear block, rather then e-clips, since it will be a little short after the mod. .....good luck, Jim, Winning Edge Designs, J concepts

Hey Jim,
You are the guy who I bought a painted body from
My T4 .

Ok can someone show me a good picture of what we are talking about with that front hinge pin plate? Where are you drilling and tapping a set screw?

CRSMP5 - I figured I'd find another forum with a bit more activity... that other one just seems dead.

[xxxkat]

DONT i repeat DONT run bowtie 40's,you will tear up the truck(trust me on this one)If you must run bowties use the Maxx ones,The kit tires are great(the inserts blow)I just got my plastic arm set so I will replace the alum. ones asap,Why does everyone want to get rid of the roto start??? I like mine..dont care much for bump boxes..and I hate pull starts.I also changed the radio system..first thing.

[winning edge designs]

Kansas, cool ,glad to see good customers floating around the net! I'll take some pics in between the hustle and bustle of the weekend asap of the mod.

I like the aluminum arms, the plastic seems to "floppy", but a bit more durable perhaps. The mods I've done make it so you must do reallt, really, dumb stuff to bust the truck.

I don't care for roto starts, or pullstarts, although the roto start eliminates the broken pull cord syndrome, it doesn't help the slipping one way bearing or reduce the drag of a pullstart.................It's all good, Jim

[KansasCajun]

Bowties are what hooks up on our track, and I'd thought I'd try running those new pro-line wheels with the 23mm hex adapter. I'll see how it reacts to those adapters.

As far as the bump box for me, its an "ease of use" thing for me. Most of the guys I race with either have run 1/10 truck or 1/8 scale buggies and they are "used to" starting with a bump box. When you have a new pit guy every weekend, its just easy to have them use the bump box and then you don't have to worry about a busted one-way if they crank too much on the roto-start.

The reason I'm going to swap the arms out are from a replacement point of view. Replacement plastic arms are $8, aluminum arms are $70. OUCH!

[xxxkat]

If you bend the stock arms..ouch,You will be replacing alot more than the arms..LOL.If bowties hook up so will the stock tires,Just use a different rim and insert.On the 40's,You just dont bend the rims on them,it is such a big tire(weight)that when you crash it's very hard on your stock parts,the stock steering link will bend(use 2)you will break the rear block.I know that the LST,MGT and Savage racers use the bowtie 40's..they need to,it helps their trucks from rolling over..A problem the LSP does not suffer from.Big tires = sprung weight,the less your tires weigh the better your truck will work.

[CRSMP5]

i found on loose dusty stuff that the bowties work on the stockers do not, different track that mb has yet to see, the 23mm hex adapter you need are the savage ones, and thats my planned 40 series wheel for it, dso i can get a even better truggy look to the truck, but why did the one person say they will tear up the truck??

yea the hb lightning has a following on this forum, i actually started it back in july on the buggy thread... im just glad its picking up

cannot wait to see your photos of what you have done to your truck..

[xxxkat]

The reason why I said that it would tear up the truck..is that the only times I have broke is running the 40's thats why,Tacoed the steering link(it looked like a U)Have broken the rear mount 2 times.All due to the force of tires that weigh 2 times what the stock ones do.

[winning edge designs]

I have had some terrible crashes, at boggy creek, trying to clear a 25 foot jump and landing directly on the front arms and suspension, which broke the front suspension pin holder. The arms looked perfect, not even a scratch....i'll be surprised if they ever bend?

As far as tires go, i've found that the kit tires will work great if your able to run holeshots in gas truck, or if your running taper pins. Any other tire in gas truck and the kit tires are sketchy at best.

XXXkat, we are doubling up the steering rack, by using longer bolts thru the two peices, works great, no more bent parts!........Jim

[CRSMP5]

ahh the 40 series with bowties weigh as much as stockers and are lighter then standard bowties on standard wheels.. i actually have a whole bunch weighed out and will have to find that thread on central to post those findings here, im thinking about mounting up my plowboys on mine and hitting some snowbanks today..

still unsure as to why your breaking rear suspention holder though...

yep double that baby up.. thats what my rc driver tip was..

[Monsterbrad]

I have yet to mess with the truck in any way but then again I have only had a chance to race it once other than breaking it in right before all this white **** fell.
I will have to get my hands on another drag link for the steering I see thats a problem bending.
And for the tire and wheel thing going on here
THATS WHY WE SHOULD ALL RUN KOMODO DRAGON'S
they are awesome and light and look GREAT!

[xxxkat]

I'll start running them(Komodo's)as soon as it's a 1/8th stadium truck class,As it stands right now the MT guys are PO'ed that our local track lets us truggys run with them now..they would go freaking insane if I used the Komodo's(LOL)I'm already 1 to 2 laps faster now with the Maxx size tires.CRSMP5,I don't know about your scale but on mine,Bow Tie 40's weighed 248 grams,Maxx Bow Tie's weighed 209 grams and the stock tires weighed 196 grams.The Komodo low pro weighed 145 grams.that was with rim and insert.

[Monsterbrad]

The Komodo's look awesome too
I will run them wherever I can.
just lookin at this truck with no wheels on it seeing its stance !
Its just awesome with those arms hanging out there
Love it
AWESOME!!!

[CRSMP5]

as soon as they allow komotos, then you will not need mt or even a hb lightning truggy.. just any buggy will do with a wheel change.. the only real issue with them in the 1st place.. yes i was one of the 1st with a set before pictures existed...

[Keith-OH]

So whats the deal with Komodos? Are you not allowed to race with them? If not why not? I never raced before so I have alot to learn before I go.

[xxxkat]

Where I race at(3 different tracks)They all have different rules on MT's.. One track in this area wont allow the LSP to even race at their track and yet you can run a hardcore maxx,For me I dont think they should allow the use of the Komodos..at least not in MT racing(it's a scale "thing"..LOL)If you wanted to start a stadium truggy class and use the Komodos that would be cool.I just think that we racers/owners of the LSP need to understand where the other drivers are at..they own a truck that was not really designed to be a race truck,I would rather race with the sut's and the sst's..truggys.

[CRSMP5]

pg 8 has photos of komotos on it... they are max 1/8" taller then 1/8th scale buggy wheels and tires..

[VMach]

What motor header/pipe combo are you running on the LSP?

[winning edge designs]

On rough tracks the Komoto's may be slower? At the Maxys Challenge I qualified 2nd on maxx bowties and wheels, Bill Hagen qualified 3rd on max bowties and wheels....there were alot of "Komodo's" behind us on the grid and after the main was over........I've tried gluing together two sets of 1/8th scale tires with the sidewalls removed so they are twice as wide, same height. This seems like the best combination by far. It's alot of work and alot of money, but it's unlimited right?......Jim

[xxxkat]

I'm running a Peak .28 with an RD Logics pipe.

[CRSMP5]

i have my rossi 28 3 port in it, waiting on the rb 28 RACE version though with pull start for it.. i have the "original" tsais pro pipe on it and stock header.. compairing that pipe to the rb 063 pipe there is very little differance except it is much more quiet.. my rb 28 is in the savage still..

honestly, unless your running buggy gearing there is a big disadvantage to the komoto tires.. will loose major top end speed.. you could never gear a savage/lst to make up for the tire size.. note how th epg8 photos are on my lightning pro1 buggy, that was made up BEFORE the stadium was revieled.. it also has a ofna clutch shoe style 2 speed in it

[winning edge designs]

For power in my Truck i'm running a Novarossi BX21, it's actually an engine that I listed on E bay for $139 and nobody bid on it, LOL. I'm also using a polished Jammin pipe. I'm thinking of going to the Rex .28, but I like the 8 minutes on tank i'm getting now, ...........Jim

[VMach]

Well I'm still waiting on my truck to arrive but I'll put a P5 or a VZ-B V-Spec on it. I have both of them NIB.

[Monsterbrad]

I have a spare Mach .26 not so thats going to be my new engine but the stocker will do for a while till I get outside in the spring I hope.
I do like the Mach 26 for power and its cheap no big loss if it over heats or anything like that.