Hot Bodies Lightning Stadium (PRO/RTR) - Page 20

Monsterbrad · #**476** 01-16-2005, 02:18 PM

Hey how about the mugen aluminum shoes
I have heard they are good also....

spesh · #**477** 01-16-2005, 02:34 PM

with regards to bowties ... 40 series or not?

gcobra16 · #**478** 01-16-2005, 03:25 PM

So the GPM clutch holds up o-k. You said the flywheel is wearing out. Would that be the two ears that stick out? What spring combo are you using (1,2,3)? I am thinking about getting this clutch for my Wasp 28. looks like there only about $40.00. Do recomend Aluminum Shoes for this set up?

sutman · #**479** 01-16-2005, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gcobra16

How do you like the fioroni Clutch. There are a couple of clutches out there like that one, and I am looking to try one. That's one thing about running these big block motors getting a clutch to hold up.

I raced all last season with the fioroni clutch fitted with carbon shoes in my SUT with the mt 25 engine and had no problems, great clutch

Monsterbrad · #**480** 01-16-2005, 03:35 PM

Fioroni clutches are expensive though!!!
I like the ofna composit shoes and I have heard like I said earlier that the new Mugen aluminum shoes are awesome also!!!!

gcobra16 · #**481** 01-16-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by sutman

I raced all last season with the fioroni clutch fitted with carbon shoes in my SUT with the mt 25 engine and had no problems, great clutch

Do you have a link to Fioroni Clutch?

CRSMP5 · #**482** 01-16-2005, 04:50 PM

i melted a set of mugen aluminum in under 20 min of racing.. with the rossie 3 port 28.. so nada..

the flywheel ears are wearing where the clutch loads and unloads on the gpm flywhel with aluminum shoes.. before i went to aluminum shoes on ti i asked around with people runnign ws7IIs and stuff and they had really really bad luck with the fluronie clutch shoes.. they are not made for high torque applications IMO a buggy with a 21 that has little bottom end and lots of RPM is more what they are made for.. but even a ws7II in a buggy ate them fast.. springs, i tried 3 too stiff would not work, so i have 2 on it.. i cannot se them workign with 1 spring as the clutch would tip in the flywheel..

CRSMP5 · #**483** 01-16-2005, 04:51 PM

bowties.. depends on teh track.. i stated elsewhere.. if im on a tight lots of turns track where i need lots of traction in turns i run standard with soft foams, on a track i can drift thru turns i use 40 series..

CRSMP5 · #**484** 01-16-2005, 04:52 PM

mb how did ya do at the races today i guess there were 4 stadiums, 2 left eirly, and the 3 day old non pro finished 2nd..

gcobra16 · #**485** 01-16-2005, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CRSMP5

i melted a set of mugen aluminum in under 20 min of racing.. with the rossie 3 port 28.. so nada..

the flywheel ears are wearing where the clutch loads and unloads on the gpm flywhel with aluminum shoes.. before i went to aluminum shoes on ti i asked around with people runnign ws7IIs and stuff and they had really really bad luck with the fluronie clutch shoes.. they are not made for high torque applications IMO a buggy with a 21 that has little bottom end and lots of RPM is more what they are made for.. but even a ws7II in a buggy ate them fast.. springs, i tried 3 too stiff would not work, so i have 2 on it.. i cannot se them workign with 1 spring as the clutch would tip in the flywheel..

So in your opinion the GPM Clutch with 2 springs, and GPM aluminum shoes?

CRSMP5 · #**486** 01-16-2005, 07:40 PM

yes if you understand, the flywheel will wear.. thats what im tryign to say is the flywheel will wear.. the shoes look new, just the flywheel in 2 gal is showing slight wear.. ive seen photos of others who wore alot more but have more fuel thru them..

im waiting till it warms up, over 50f, to put my rb 28 into the stadium with the clutch set up to see how it works.. its on my rb28 if you could not figure it out, at this same time ill be able to compair it to mikes rossi 28 8 port he is getting and around that same time i plan to have a rb 28 race version to also compair.. but at this current moment, the rossi 3 port is eating clutch shoes in a race day, well mugen composite is 1/2 worn, lasted longer then the aluminum ones did though, this has become a issue since it hit the 4 gal point on the engine.. must be broken in finally...

i just refuse to borrow parts from other engines to study the effects.. also the rb28 has slightly less bottom end and more top end then the rossi 3 port so that may scavenge clutch life..

mb had clutch issues with his sut truggy.. im starting to think its due to being a truggy and lacking the gear reduction savages and other mts have.. its just i refuse to spend alot of money on clutch shoes when they only last 1 day of racing..

gcobra16 · #**487** 01-16-2005, 08:58 PM

Looks like extra clutch shoes will be in order. Does any one know of something better?

Bibious · #**488** 01-17-2005, 10:31 AM

Hey CR thanks for the glow plug chart. FYI - Changed to a OS #8 plug and my truck fiires up np and idles nice w/o any throttle. Of course now I have another problem; i apparently broke my radio, I must have hit the atenna on something cause when I pulled it out to extend it the entire thing came out. Long story short opened it up found the plastic brace was broken and did a quick job wtih some glue and a heat gun and did a quick fix. Unfortunately I must have hit something cause now my servos are reversed and the switches dont work to reverse them back to normal. Was actually pretty fun yesterday when I applied the brake to go mess with it and the thing took off into my leg. I am going to swap out the electronics with an Airtronic MX 3 and a Hitec 645 MG servo for the steering. Anyone have input on this set up? I am basically just bashing with this truggy right now and might be racing in the future if we get a track built down here. Our racing "rules" will probably be very relaxed as whoever has a nitro powered vehicle can enter. Another question I had is where are you guys getting your spare parts from? I noticed on tower most are on order and pending order etc etc.

Thanks again for all your help - I run this truck for only 2 weekends and I have probably clocked at least the same amount of run time as I got with my T-maxx over the course of one full year!

loadleft · #**489** 01-17-2005, 10:42 AM

I want to know what type of shock springs are you guys using for tuning? I bought the Hot Bodies Light Blue springs but I can't tell any difference between them and the stock black ones even using my Losi Spring tester. I bought Mugen Rears and they all seem to soft! I bought all three versions they have and with the heaviest springs I have to use a ton of pre-load spacers just to get the arms level. I guess next I'll be trying Kyosho Rears but I wanted to konw if anyone else had a better Idea.

gcobra16 · #**490** 01-17-2005, 11:42 AM

Stock & a few spacers have worked for me. I did change the oil to 45WT.

gcobra16 · #**491** 01-17-2005, 12:27 PM

Hey CSMP5 what do you think of this clutch Werks Power Clutch

CRSMP5 · #**492** 01-17-2005, 09:04 PM

never tried the werks.. i have the issue of i want to be able to replace clutch shoes easily, try to find spares and price them, ive heard it works great.. but like the GPM one, the original shoes, aka not aluminum, lasted under 3 tanks of fuel, so then i had to spend MORE money on new shoes and beleive me replacement aluminum was far from cheap.. i just dont have deep enough pockets for blowign it on clutches.. id rather buy a simple shoe set up that i can replace easily, and that dont cost as much as the day of racing...

Mr. Constructor · #**493** 01-18-2005, 04:07 PM

Hello guys,

hopefully this hadn´t been asked yet:

The chassis plate of the Truggy (the stadium pro or the normal one, i think they share the same chassis) is it angled in the front (or maybe even the back??), or only in the middle for strenght ??
(most 8th buggies are angled in the front, that´s why i´m asking)

Thanks for your helping, this looked like a next Brushless conversion to me !!

CRSMP5 · #**494** 01-18-2005, 07:13 PM

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...&postcount=418
thread of chassis photos..

yes it has "kick up" what your asking, it looks to be the same as the buggy, but the chassis are big time different in size.. the lengthened the front end some and the rear end alot..

mb the bodies not going to be in thsi week.. will be next week..

getting shipped to the LHS fri from what i understand..

Monsterbrad · #**495** 01-18-2005, 07:48 PM

Cr thats cool I can wait...
It's so freakin cold here now I am thinking about skipping this week..
I was not there this past weekend.
As far as springs for this truck I am still running the stock ones and they work great.
Also I am still running the stock clutch and have had no problems yet.
I have thought about a different clutch seeing's how these clutches are a pin in the ass to change the shoes.

Mr. Constructor · #**496** 01-19-2005, 06:13 AM

Thanks for helping !!
(i´m designing conversion kits for these cars (the buggy is ready, but the Truck was a difference as it is hard to get em here in germany (the new importer LRP has nothing in stock yet !!)

CRSMP5 · #**497** 01-19-2005, 09:30 AM

not a problem.. i figured that thread would help as you can see the differance in total length, the fact they streched the front end, and so on..

Monsterbrad · #**498** 01-19-2005, 06:42 PM

thats true for anybody new reading this this truck is not just a buggy with longer arms!!!!!!
I thought it was at first till I saw Cr's truck then I had to have one...

CRSMP5 · #**499** 01-19-2005, 09:02 PM

dont forget mb.. you also had a gs sut.. so you can really appreciate the differance..

Monsterbrad · #**500** 01-19-2005, 09:34 PM

yeah the SUT is just a play toy after this truck..
Pics do this truck no justice just have to hold one and see one to believe it.
AWESOME is the only word for it.....