Kyosho Inferno GT/GT2 - Page 56

gixxer · #**1376** 05-04-2008, 09:18 PM

Here it is with V01B. First impression of the inferno GT.

Brakes suck and fades. This is a really cheap inferno and need stablizers. My MP6 with street tires handles better

With 9 tanks of gas we decided to test top speed. I do not hear the gearchange like on my TC3. Is this normal?

Inferno GT V01B with stock pipe and 20% 52mph. (radar gun)
Inferno MP6 with V01B "longer stub shaft" with Kyosho special pipe 54MPH.

Pretty cool car but i'm kinda dissappointed. I think it's due to the tires. ajlovering12345, what tires are you running. Are they much better?

gixxer · #**1377** 05-04-2008, 09:25 PM

Oh yeah this is the 350Z version. Isn't 52mph stock speeds? I can probably lean it out a bit after after the engine loosen up a little more.

danketchpel · #**1378** 05-04-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gixxer

First impression of the inferno GT.

Brakes suck and fades.

Yup, right on the money. Worse stock brakes I've encountered.

I'm still working on upgrading mine.

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Originally Posted by gixxer

With 9 tanks of gas we decided to test top speed. I do not hear the gearchange like on my TC3. Is this normal?

I suspect the reason you're not hearing the shift is that in stock condition it's set to happen almost immediately. Basically after about 1-2 ft you're in 2nd gear. If you crank down on the tension screw about 2 turns it should bring it into range.

Be prepared to do some sort of upgrade on the 2nd gear, it will strip out very quickly. At the very least, replace the bronze bushings with ball bearings. There are several upgrade paths to choose from.

I "think" upgrading to the Evolva parts is the cheapest and easiest, but there are at least 2 other approaches also. There are several approaches outlined here.
http://infernogt.proboards102.com/in...ard=drivetrain

I decided to just drop in a complete Ofna shoe type 2 speed tranny. It's not cheap or that easy, but that transmission is bullet proof, much beefier than the stock setup. Here's my detailed swap.
http://infernogt.proboards102.com/in...ay&thread=1208

Here's a comparison of the two transmissions.

Here's the completed installation.

gixxer · #**1379** 05-04-2008, 10:56 PM

Wow, seems like everything that was converted into the Inferno GT was flawed

. It's been out for a long time so why kyosho has not fix these issues. Or make a kit version with hopups

. The inferno GT is cool but these problems are not.

How long does the two speed last and which parts would I need for replacements? It seem that it would be easier to stock up and change worn parts. I had to reshim and adjust the center diff because the gears were placed too far up. I'm suprised it cleared the spur with the stock engine.

I have, USA-1, Inferno, Inferno mp6, Kanai 7.5, K2 and MP777 special but truely i'm was expecting much more from Kyosho. This Inferno GT is JUNK compared to the other kits i've owned! I am turly dissappointed but at least the body looks good though

Kinda wish i went OFNA? Perhaps it's better quality and working brakes. After purchasing and reading the article i'm feel the editor were bribed or never driven the cars they had tested for a very long time.

ajlovering12345 · #**1380** 05-05-2008, 05:13 AM

The SP brake set for the V-1-RRR will fit right in and works great.

I agree. The Ofna street racer is a much better car

Cheers

gixxer · #**1381** 05-05-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ajlovering12345

The SP brake set for the V-1-RRR will fit right in and works great.

I agree. The Ofna street racer is a much better car

Cheers

Are you talking about IFW324 COMPOSITE BONDED BRAKE PAD(MP777/7.5READYSET/V-ONE RRR) ? Would this work better than multiple brakes?

badboy2 · #**1382** 05-08-2008, 11:20 PM

ive never run mine that much yet i only have 4tanks thru it after breaking it in .. but im guessing im gonna have the same 2 speed problems since i never heard mine shift at all..i also noticed that i lost braking power on 3rd tank..it would not stop at all..i was able to stop it by running thru thick and tall grass..what other brake upgrade do u guys recommend?is the v-1-rrr brake really a direct fit ?and up until now im still confused on which tire/wheel to buy..

ELVIS1973 · #**1383** 05-09-2008, 01:26 AM

I've got 2 gallons on mine. Get the St-R or st-rr vented brakes. I got an entire center diff assy with 2 brake sets from ebay for $40 shipped. I've gone through 2 - 2spd gearsets and replaced the bushings with bearings (and I didn't have an issue with it not shifting, they just started looking bad).. $20 total. The only time mine didn't shift was after the first time I had the tranny apart I put the 2nd gear clutch in backwards and the finger wasn't catching the inside of the 2nd speed gear.

Here's a link for a center diff mount and 2 sets of brakes for the truggy.

click me

gixxer · #**1384** 05-09-2008, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ELVIS1973

I've got 2 gallons on mine. Get the St-R or st-rr vented brakes. I got an entire center diff assy with 2 brake sets from ebay for $40 shipped. I've gone through 2 - 2spd gearsets and replaced the bushings with bearings (and I didn't have an issue with it not shifting, they just started looking bad).. $20 total. The only time mine didn't shift was after the first time I had the tranny apart I put the 2nd gear clutch in backwards and the finger wasn't catching the inside of the 2nd speed gear.

Here's a link for a center diff mount and 2 sets of brakes for the truggy.

click me

I just order those a couple of days ago since i figured if i was going to buy the pad I might as well get two brakes for the same price. Perhaps I should tighted the diff somehow or is this a sneeky way for kyosho to slow the wear process on these faulty2-speed. Or maybe it wasn't assembled very well at the factory?

gixxer · #**1385** 05-09-2008, 11:45 PM

Also to help brakes what are the torque specs on these stock servos? And is the stock pipe good. I was thinking of getting an OS pipe setup for my v01V?

ELVIS1973 · #**1386** 05-10-2008, 04:00 PM

LOL.. When I put them on I thought to myself "the brakes will probably outlast the car!!" You're gonna need to make a small notch in your radio/servo plate.. No biggie.. I did my buddies at the track with a dremel in about 5 minutes. As far as the 2 speed gears go, like I said earlier. I haven't had any failure yet, but I can see where if you have your shift point set high and you have a strong engine that the pin in the 2nd speed gear is gonna be toast. Not really sure what to do about that. Since it's a big issue with ALOT of people that minght be changed on the GT2 (yep, it's coming..and it's got a different engine and a sick AUDI body!!)

Stock servos?? Not sure on the specs. I never plugged mine in, switched to the JR servos before I fired miine up.

gixxer · #**1387** 05-10-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ELVIS1973

LOL.. When I put them on I thought to myself "the brakes will probably outlast the car!!" You're gonna need to make a small notch in your radio/servo plate.. No biggie.. I did my buddies at the track with a dremel in about 5 minutes.

I have a MP777 that is going thru the novak conversion process. I think that plate should be a direct fit.

ELVIS1973 · #**1388** 05-10-2008, 11:12 PM

It might.. The 2 spd is moved further forward on the chassis than on the st-r anyway.. If you're running a center diff in the stock buggy location you'll be fine.

danketchpel · #**1389** 05-11-2008, 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gixxer

Kinda wish i went OFNA? Perhaps it's better quality and working brakes. After purchasing and reading the article i'm feel the editor were bribed or never driven the cars they had tested for a very long time.

I read that article and wondered the same thing. They didn't even mention the brakes fading after about 5-6 good hard stops from speed, much less blowing out 2nd gear. Makes ya wonder how they drove it LOL.

Anyway, from what I've seen it's a mixed bag, some of the Kyosho stuff is better and some of the Ofna stuff is better. I do think there is a bunch of stuff on the GTP that is better than the IGT but I haven't had the chance to drive them side by side. I do love the handling of the IGT, it's just natural feeling, like you can do anything with it just by thinking.

I have recently installed a fiberglass disk brake setup on my IGT and so far I'm happy with the results. I need more time on more surfaces etc. to fully comment but for now it's 100% better than stock.

gixxer · #**1390** 05-11-2008, 06:35 PM

Actually the turning radius on these Inferno GT are horrible. Is this the way it is or the stock servos are too weak?

I wish Kyosho make a Inferno GT Special

ELVIS1973 · #**1391** 05-11-2008, 08:47 PM

Grind the stops off the inside of the front c-hubs. That will give you ALOT more steering. These things push like a freight train from too much caster.

ajlovering12345 · #**1392** 05-12-2008, 02:47 AM

Flatten the chassis. My custom chassis is flat at the front and it turns OK

Cheers

ELVIS1973 · #**1393** 05-12-2008, 11:23 PM

That won't cut it around here.. I'm running in a spec class, as alot of us are. The only issues I've had are:
THE FRIGGIN PUSH!!!! The crappy linkages, the crappy brakes and the weak a$$ Kyosho rims.

danketchpel · #**1394** 05-13-2008, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by danketchpel

I have recently installed a fiberglass disk brake setup on my IGT and so far I'm happy with the results. I need more time on more surfaces etc. to fully comment but for now it's 100% better than stock.

Well I got to push the brakes pretty hard last weekend and found out the fiberglass disk will fade but it takes a lot more than the stocker and will recover faster.

I may have to break down and ante up for the SP-2 calipers and a quality steel disk. I wish I could get a trick vented brake rotor like the one on the new Revo Platinum.

How come the Monster trucks get better brakes than high speed road cars? I don't get it.

Bill Nine · #**1395** 05-13-2008, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by danketchpel

Well I got to push the brakes pretty hard last weekend and found out the fiberglass disk will fade but it takes a lot more than the stocker and will recover faster.

I may have to break down and ante up for the SP-2 calipers and a quality steel disk. I wish I could get a trick vented brake rotor like the one on the new Revo Platinum.

How come the Monster trucks get better brakes than high speed road cars? I don't get it.

For around $50.00US you can say goodby to the braking issue for good...vented steel rotor and forever pads.

http://infernogt.proboards102.com/in...lay&thread=978

myndseye · #**1396** 05-14-2008, 07:50 PM

Hey Steve! When will we get this?

StevePond · #**1397** 05-16-2008, 12:11 PM

I believe the preliminary information says that we should receive them in September.

myndseye · #**1398** 05-16-2008, 08:09 PM

Any major changes, I can see the new head on the motor, or is it a new motor?

danketchpel · #**1399** 05-18-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Nine

For around $50.00US you can say goodby to the braking issue for good...vented steel rotor and forever pads.

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Originally Posted by danketchpel

I may have to break down and ante up for the SP-2 calipers and a quality steel disk.

I plan on using the Kyosho IFW324 pads and the precision disk from the Ofna DM-1. I can't use the Kyosho disk cuz I upgraded to the Ofna tranny and it won't fit the front drive cup. I just have to wait for the disk to be in stock.......

I still think the new Revo platinum disk is the trickest yet. But there's no way it will fit. The stock disk on my T-Maxx is about 1/4" larger in diameter than my IGT disk and the stock calipers are finned aluminum with real brake pad material bonded on, go figure. Traxxas makes good brakes.

danketchpel · #**1400** 05-18-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by myndseye

Any major changes?

If that photo is accurate, a few things I noticed.

1. The motor is mounted using standard mounts, no more bottom mounting.

2. The front chassis brace is there.

3. The shocks look upgraded.

Can't tell about the important stuff, ie tranny and brakes.

That new Audi body is pretty sick