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Old 01-13-2006, 01:15 PM
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reverse on a savage

Well Ive Changed My Mind From A Tmaxx Or Revo To A Savage 25...mostly Because Of This Site And All You Who Say They Are The Best Bashers And Most Durable. My Question Is How Hard Is It To Install Reverse On These...i Know U Need The Reverse Module But It Says Servo Not Included...what Type Do I Get For The Reverse And Where Do I Buy It. Also On The Hpi Site It Talks About Reverse On Thier Nitro Vehicles And It Tearing Up The One Way Sealed Bearing Or Something Like That...does That Apply To These Trucks With The Reverse Module Istalled? Is It Bad To Have That Option Or Does It Wear Out The Internals Quickly Or Something? Thanks For All The Great Info Guys.
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:16 PM
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the Reverse kit goes in the transmission, all you need is a standard servo for it which can be bought at a local shop or off the internet. I could see it breaking things if you where to shift it while moving but other than that i don't see why it would break stuff. I plan on getting for my savage when i get the money
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Old 01-13-2006, 04:21 PM
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Well, if putting reverse in a Savage is your first project on a nitro rc then you're in for a challange. I'm not saying that it's really all that hard but it is considerably harder than doing it on a non TVP vehicle. Once you get the transmission out it's pretty easy to put the reverse module in. As far as the servo goes, get the least expensive one that you can. It does not have to be strong or fast. I think I paid $13 for the futaba servo I put in. Also, be ready to fight the radio box. Once you put that extra servo in there it gets REALLY crowded.
Good luck with the Savage and the mod. It's a good truck but certainly not what I'd reccomend to someone as a first truck.
I know a lot of folks don't agree with that but I've got a lot of experence with rc's in general and that's my opinion.
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Old 01-13-2006, 06:21 PM
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i really wanna put reverse in my savage, and had the same questions as chuckles, so to have the reverse all you need to do is buy the reverse module and everything else thats stock on the truck will work?
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Old 01-13-2006, 06:36 PM
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and a standard servo
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:02 PM
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and a standard servo

ya, so like just the stock servo?
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:04 PM
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ya, the Fatuba s3003/4 are like 13bucks
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:11 PM
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Ok That Sounds Like Easy Enough....does The Reverse On These Engage When You Push Forward On The Trigger? Or Does It Come To A Stop First Then Go To Reverse...thats What The Tmaxx And Revo Do. If I Must Have Reverse And Im Gonna Be A Basher Is There A Better First Choice For Me? Perhaps A Mgt? Or Tmaxx/revo? Speak Up Yall
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:13 PM
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you stop the truck and flich the 3rd chanel switch and then use throatle like normal but you go backwards
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:18 PM
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you stop the truck and flich the 3rd chanel switch and then use throatle like normal but you go backwards
SO PUSHIGN FORWARD ON THE TRIGGER WHILE GOING FORWARD DOES WHAT THEN? BRAKES? IT SEEMS TO ME IF IM RIGHT THAT ENGAGING THE REVERSE WHILE GOING FORWARD ISNT REALLY SOMETHING YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT OR AM I OFF TRACK HERE?
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:23 PM
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well i think you might break stuff going into reverse while moving fast.. pulling towards you will give it throtle and pushing the trigger away is break
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:34 PM
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If you are going to put in the reverse module
now would be a good time to upgrade the steering servo.
IF you get a high torque servo for steering you could
then move stock steering servo to the throttle/brake
position and move the stock throttle/brake servo
to the reverse servo position. Instead of spending $20
on a cheap servo for reverse, spend $50 or so for new steering servo
and move the others as stated above. Have you done any
work on your savage ? Adding reverse does take time and patients.
You'll need a nice work area to lay out the parts as you take them off.
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Old 01-13-2006, 07:40 PM
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No Rebrag I Have Not Even Bought It Yet. I Just Became Interested In Nitro So I Went And Bought An Rc Car Magazine. From Reading The Magazine I Determined I Was Gonna Get A Tmaxx Or Revo But Then I Keep Finding Websites Like This One And Everyone Has Thier .02 Cents To Put In And Now I Dunno What To Buy. I Know Imgonna Do Some Bashing.....i Will Never Enter A "real" Race Just Some Backyard Stuffwith My Cousin. My Requirements Are It Has To Be Strong And Durrable And Has To Have Reverse....the More I Read The More I Change My Mind. Ive Gone Form Tmaxx, To Revo, To Savage, To Mgt, And Back To Revo Ect....whats Ur Opinion On This.
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:43 AM
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dude, GO WITH THE SAVAGE 25 if your disapointed with it i will personally kiss you on one of your butt cheeks, unless something skrews up because of user error!
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Old 01-14-2006, 12:51 AM
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dude, GO WITH THE SAVAGE 25 if your disapointed with it i will personally kiss you on one of your butt cheeks, unless something skrews up because of user error!

lol i hear ya there...im sure they are all great but the more i read the more i like the savage....i wish it came with reverse already and there was more room on the chassis to work but fromwhat i hear its not as bad as it seems. thanks abednego
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:17 AM
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I bought my son a savage for his 10th birthday
back in november of 2004. He has beat the tar out of it
and it keeps on going. I have done many upgrades to it
and I also ported and polished the motor. Its fast and
lots of fun. I don't drive it except for tuning or testing
upgrades, one day I was testing new three speed
and drove it through a 2 inch thick concrete landscaping
block at close to full speed. The block just split open
like a driveway gate. I checked the savage and it only
had some scratches on front skig plate. I have now set
it up for racing and my son was racing at a local dirt
track. Track is now closed for the winter. I will be tearing
it down soon to get ready for race season. I like the
savage so much I bought a limited edition 2 weeks ago
for my self. My son is now 11 and he tells me his truck
will whop mine so the challange is on. I have not broken
mine in yet but I have upgraded a few things already.
After break in I'll port and polish the motor and buy
a THS pipe for it and then we'll see whos savage
is faster. I have friends that have the LST or the T-maxx
and they like their trucks. The only problem I've had
with my sons was, After the port job we did fry the slipper
clutch. The savage is a little harder to work on, not because
its complex but because you do have to remove more parts
to get to other parts . I.E. the front or rear diffs require
a lot of tear down to remove them. I like taking things
apart and learning how they work so for me taking
savage apart for whatever reason is fun. Here is a picture
of my sons after just returning from race track
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:34 AM
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i always like tearing things apart too....i was thinkin bout the ss kit adn building it my self but i dont know that much about electronics and what to buy for the radio and stuff so thats why i figured i would stick with the mgt 25 ready to run and just learn as i go....thanks for the imput man..nice truck...good luck whoopin up on ur boy...
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:40 AM
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btw...what kind of batteries go onboard for the servo's i saw somewhere u needed 12 AA is that just for the handheld or are some of those for the truck too.
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Old 01-14-2006, 01:58 AM
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4 batteries go in truck and 8 go in hand held.
I bought a hump pack rechargable battery for
the truck. Replacing the 4 batteries in truck is
a pain in the butt. With the hump pack you can recharge
it without opening radio box. Also the hump pack makes
the servos more responsive.
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Old 01-16-2006, 06:00 AM
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if you're good at working with your hands, then installation of the reverse module should be very simple. however, make sure you calibrate it correctly. after installing mine, i tried running the truck, but i didn't have the servo horn at the right amount of degrees, so it didn't swing far enough to engage it in foward.

if you're going to upgrade your transmitter, some may say that a switchable third channel is needed, but anything with a third channel will work.

if you get a savage, you will not be dissapointed.
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:11 PM
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Chuckles

If you hav'nt brought your truck yet. It may be worth going with a Savage SS 4.8 kit then you can put in your reverse and extra servo ect in during the build.

The 4.6 has better tyres and a lot better engine,you can also then get a good radio like a JP XS3.
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:16 PM
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i have been thinkin about that exact thing...that way i could get to know my truck inside and out. ive also been thinking about the new mgt 4.6...there are just so many options out there to choose from..im still researching and im sure whatever i end up with be great. thanks for the imput
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Old 01-16-2006, 11:37 PM
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i have been thinkin about that exact thing...that way i could get to know my truck inside and out. ive also been thinking about the new mgt 4.6...there are just so many options out there to choose from..im still researching and im sure whatever i end up with be great. thanks for the imput
IMO the best why to lern about your new truck and the hobbie in general is to build the truck. this is what I did for my first truck a Savage SS 2.5 and it has certainly increased my confidence in working on my trucks and the enjoyment of the hobbie.

Good luck
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Old 01-17-2006, 02:38 PM
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The reverse module is fairly simple to install. The only problem with taking apart a savage is that if you're going to take it apart, be prepared to take it apart completely. You have the front arms/radio box, back arms, transmission, and motor all held together by twin vertical plates (TVP). Remove the plates and the truck basically falls apart.
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I had no problems with it other than you must be at a stop before engaging the servo. If you engage the servo while the truck is moving, you risk the chance of having the gear float in between (kinda like the truck would be stuck in neutral).
A little calibration of thes servo and it should be no problem. The extra servo does crowd up the radio box and I rarely use the reverse (seriously, why do you have to go backwards when you're a monster truck? Just drive over it )
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Old 01-19-2006, 02:02 AM
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How durable and reliable is the reverse kit in the Savage? Any drawbacks to using it?

Thanks.
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